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  •  not much of a "democratic election" (20+ / 0-)

    nathan could have also posted the converse: what if the presidential election were held the way these supposed "secret ballot" elections for unions were held?

    first, the election judges would be appointed by the party in power (i.e. the bush administration).

    next, anyone volunteering for the obama campaign would be fired from their jobs, as would those who even put up obama lawn signs at home. and yes, private investigators will be hired to check on you.

    then voters would be reminded that while their choice on the ballot is secret, the fact that they voted is not. and further, their future with their employers depends on getting the "right" results.  in other words, if republicans win, people who voted will be treated normally, but if the democrats win, those voters should expect some unpleasant new job responsiblities and not count on this year's "merit increase." and don't expect the "new administration" to do anything about it, because the handover will get stalled  in court for a few years at least.

    yeah, that sounds absolutely democratic to me.

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    by zeke L on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 09:14:05 AM PST

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    •  Having worked for the NLRB (14+ / 0-)

      I'd say that this is mostly accurate. With an election, the employer gets to do weeks and weeks of propaganda opposing the union, holding parties, steak dinners, forcing workers to attend mandatory education long as they don't do it in the 24 hours before the election, it's basically non-coercive per board law.

      Card check would let folks who want to choose a Union do so before the employer gets a chance to twist arms. I'm all for it!

      •  This analogy is better. (0+ / 0-)

        It's not so much that we should do other secret ballot elections by card check. It's just the particular dynamics of certification elections that lend themselves to what the diarist is talking about.

        An interesting way to grease the skids on this might be to increase the jurisdictional limits for card check companies and lower it for secret ballot companies. But who knows, they may not need greasing.

        Palin: I can see Russia from my house! Obama: I can see Lafayette Park from mine.

        by Attorney at Arms on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 12:17:30 PM PST

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