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  •  "Maybe" means "no" (9+ / 0-)

    Any organizer worth his or her salt knows exactly how every single worker will vote going into the election. It's not rocket science.  You talk to people a few times a week (yes, every. single. worker.).  If they stop taking your calls, or won't call you back, or suddenly clam up on the phone...they're voting no.

    You push them to do things to test where they stand -- sign the card/petition for the election, come to an organizing meeting, wear a button, leaflet, get a coworker to come to a meeting, testify at the Board, provide a quote for a newsletter or leaflet...people who do those things are voting for the union.  People who don't, aren't.

    The organizers will know, and your coworkers will know.  I suppose you could lie to everyone, one way or another, but it's really, really rare.  Ask anyone who's been through a union election, either as a worker or an organizer.   Organizing is not some private, individual decision -- it's a group decision, and the whole group that's involved will know what's going on.  And both sides, by the way, do these assessments -- bosses have 1-on-1s to pressure and abuse, and also too assess workers.

    That's how it works in the real world, right now.  The only exception would be public sector organizing where, in many cases, the boss just don't fight it.  But in the private sector, and some public sector (like at universities, often) it's already all out there.  The only question is whether bosses should be allowed to butt into the workers' decision.

    "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

    by Pesto on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 09:35:02 AM PST

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    •  One thing (2+ / 0-)
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      Pesto, Elana Levin of UNITE HERE

      Actually, while everything Pesto says about how the organizing process workers is spot-on, it should be noted that your decision to since a union card is yours alone and that the cards themselves are kept private, especially from the employer, who is the one who is going to be threatening one's working conditions and possibly firing you.

      That's the real coercion. The card check system keeps the vote secret much longer than the NLRB system does.

    •  I'll add that union organization MUST take place (2+ / 0-)
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      Pesto, Special K

      off-hours, while management can lobby against unionization during work time - and they do.

      •  Not entirely true (0+ / 0-)

        If the workers are allowed to discuss non-work-related topics (football, their kids, etc) at work then they're also allowed to discuss the union.  Legally speaking, that it.

        "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

        by Pesto on Thu Nov 13, 2008 at 12:06:44 PM PST

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        •  Somewhat correct (0+ / 0-)

          Union activity can be discussed, but no attempts at persuasion can be made on company property during your shift.  Off the clock is a bit different though.

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