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    citizenx, two roads

    There was a signting over the San Francisco Bay some time in the last 10 years.  Some time after darrk, apparently hundreds or possibly thousands of people saw a cluster of lights with odd characeristics but no particular shape (e.g. just bright spots of light), that moved in a manner suggestive of something other than conventional civilian or military aircraft (in other words, it wasn't the Blue Angels doing practice routines at night before Fleet Week).  This was all over the news for a couple of days.  

    I remember at the time (i live in the Bay Area), thinking it would have been interesting to see them first-hand just to have a wild guess at what they might have been.  The major area newspapers were full of headlines, and then the whole thing just went away as the normal news cycle resumed.  

    I think what goes on with even the best reports (high-cred witness or mass witness situation) is:  After the civilian airlines and the military and NASA each say "it wasn't ours!", and data on e.g. meteorites are negative, the press just decides it's a good mystery (thus a couple days' coverage) but there won't be an answer forthcoming, to they move along.  

    •  After the story dies... (3+ / 0-)
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      Bionic, G2geek, citizenx

      After the civilian airlines and the military and NASA each say "it wasn't ours!", and data on e.g. meteorites are negative, the press just decides it's a good mystery (thus a couple days' coverage) but there won't be an answer forthcoming, to they move along.

      And that's the point where in the past civilian organizations would send trained investigators. They used to be quite active, with world-wide membership.

      Now those organizations are mostly either defunct or moribund, and most 'reports' are posted as first-hand accounts scatter-shot across the internet, and the story ends there.

      And the only thing that gets public attention is when it involves a commercial pilot, or some such, willing to talk publicly and with a spectacular tale.

      Off the top of my head, for instance, I can only remember two stories in the last ten years that managed to break through into the news: the hovering UFO at the Chicago airport reported by the air controllers and such, and the 'mile-wide' UFO off the coast of England reported by two separate commercial pilots.

      (I leave off the Stephensville thing because that's been mostly a creature of the Larry King show.)

      Meanwhile any serious government investigation of incidents remains so obscure that there is no known government/military investigation of such incidents. Maybe it exists, maybe it doesn't. Either way, publicly all the powers that be have to say is 'not ours' and 'not interested'.

      And if any private UFO investigator does pursue a story and publish it, it's greeted by a high degree of skepticism even before a single word has been read because, after all, it's written by one of those 'UFO nuts'.

      The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. - H.L. Mencken

      by two roads on Sun Nov 16, 2008 at 06:54:20 AM PST

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      •  oh, i think the government has probably (1+ / 0-)
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        come to conclusions about this.

        It seems from the last of your diaries, that the military ended up concluding after their first lengthy study, that some of these were of offworld origin but were not a threat.  After that, civilian leaders probably figured that saying as much would panic the public, so they clammed up about the whole thing and left it there.  And after a decade or so of pooh-poohing it, that became the accepted wisdom and there the matter rests until something occurs to change it.

        As for civilian organizations, yeah there needs to be a serious central organization to pursue these cases objectively.  Declassifying all of the government stuff would also be useful.  And at this point in history, if government made a public statement to the effect that "we figured out decades ago that some of them are ETs, but they are not a threat to us," that would be like admitting the obvious and it would not cause a panic.  

        From my speculation in the last round, I suspect it would instead lead to serious strengthening of support for the space program.  If some of these UFOs (the small ones in particular make the case for this) are robotic research devices similar to our own robotic missions, then clearly there is a basis to suggest that we too should take steps in a similar direction: a major unmanned space program to develop low-cost robotic devices we could send off to interesting solar systems, to observe and send back information.  

        This would also have the result of getting the entire culture thinking forward in very long time-spans: the hundreds or thousands of years needed for those missions to reach their targets and send back data.  

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