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  •  Drug issue would depend on what kind of test (1+ / 0-)
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    paulitics

    they use. A hair test would catch stuff I did years ago, but apparently those are expensive. My concerns are two: one, I have a psychiatric record; two, I have asthma and am in pretty terrible shape. Would either of those be likely to stick me somewhere awful?

    To be honest, I've always been afraid that if I joined the Armed Forces, I'd wind up Private Pyle from the movie Full Metal Jacket. I mean, seriously - neurotic about bullies and authority, that's me. I'd be worried about killing someone.

    Who knows, though. This might be a good idea.

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      Joseph Hale

      After abstaining for 90 to 120 days.

      If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog. - Harry S. Truman

      by paulitics on Sat Nov 15, 2008 at 01:17:19 PM PST

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    •  It's good to see you are honest (0+ / 0-)

      A hair test would catch stuff I did years ago, but apparently those are expensive.

      I doubt anyone gives a crap about anything you did years ago.  The only test is urinalysis.

      My concerns are two: one, I have a psychiatric record; two, I have asthma and am in pretty terrible shape.

      I was a pudgy 18 year old when I joined, and couldn't run 1/4 mile.  However, the system is rigged to ensure you succeed.  I eventually came to enjoy running, and at age 42 I was beating the 20 year-olds in 4-5 mile "fun" runs.  Even at 170 lbs I always knew I was battling the inner fat guy, but I managed to keep him at bay for an entire career.

      The asthma may be an issue if it can't be controlled via exercise.  I'm not an expert on that issue.  However, I served with several asthmatics and even a couple of diabetics.  I developed sleep apnea in my mid thirties and remained in for several more years.

      To be honest, I've always been afraid that if I joined the Armed Forces, I'd wind up Private Pyle from the movie Full Metal Jacket. I mean, seriously - neurotic about bullies and authority, that's me. I'd be worried about killing someone.

      I understand.  I was pretty apprehensive to join myself.  You aren't going to bump into too many bullies because the demands of the job don't favor those kinds of punks.  Basic training is stressful, but remember--the system is rigged to ensure you succeed.

      Authority is a weird thing.  I came to realize that the military allowed me a degree of autonomy that civilian work life doesn't afford people.  By the time I was a mid-level NCO (about 26 years old) I was pretty much the acknowledged local expert in my field (aircraft avionics maintenance).  You don't get pushed around because the military wants and needs creative, independent thinkers.

      I will agree with other posters on this thread that the quality-of-life rank-order of the services are:

      1.  The USAF
      1.  The USCG
      1.  The US Navy
      1.  The US Army
      1.  The US Marines

      Now Marines, don't go hating on me here.  I'm talking about working conditions and physical demands.  I recommended the Army for a few reasons:

      1.  No high school diploma requirement
      1.  Short term of enlistment
      1.  Really awesome bonus package
      1.  Serious need for medical personnel

      Your best bet is to go talk to a recruiter from each service.  Don't be intimidated:  the recruiter is probably some 24 year old junior NCO who has more in common with you than you think.

      Also consider the National Guard and Reserves.  If you need people to bounce ideas off of, there's a pretty good military geezer community here on DKOS.  You'll get the bullshit-free scoop.  Good luck.

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