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  •  the problem arises... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...when he gets arrested and has bond revoked from a previous arrest.

    That was a foolish, foolish, foolish, foolish mistake.

    So long as men die, Liberty will never perish. -- Charlie Chaplin, "The Great Dictator"

    by khereva on Tue Nov 25, 2008 at 04:18:39 AM PST

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    •  You assume the second arrest was legit, (4+ / 0-)

      which I'm not prepared to do.

      Some links in this might be helpful.

      •  No. I don't. (4+ / 0-)
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        It didn't matter whether the second arrest was legit, because that matter won't be adjudicatd until the matter comes to trial.

        What mattered was that he managed to get arrested while out on bond.

        That showed a lack of the good sense God gave the common dog.

        Shame. He seems like a generally good guy.

        So long as men die, Liberty will never perish. -- Charlie Chaplin, "The Great Dictator"

        by khereva on Tue Nov 25, 2008 at 04:25:31 AM PST

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        •  I know Charlie Grapski (10+ / 0-)

          I've had beers with him. I like him. But he has this penchant for getting himself into serious trouble. It's not just retribution for political activism. Charlie is a volatile person, especially when faced with authority figures that he feels are infringing on his rights. This diary gives a one sided picture. There's more to it than this.

        •  he knew they were out to shut him up (6+ / 0-)

          one way or the other. He sounds like he does not like to give in to fascists. Should a person stop doing anything and saying anything that might give the local dictators an excuse to apply their misuse of power? I would toe the line because I am more easily cowed or have more to lose at this point in my life. He sounds like a person who will not back down in the face of injustice and in this case, the unjust having been called on their non-bluff abuse of power have to act and impose the next step of suppression. That is what they do. Charlie may be a little crazy but that's what it takes when the totally unreasonable and amoral are in power.

          Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie

          by IreGyre on Tue Nov 25, 2008 at 06:27:18 AM PST

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        •  Well, you miss the point: (2+ / 0-)
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          it doesn't matter because he landed in jail no matter what was behind the second arrest, because two arrests is enough to revoke the bond in itself, apparently.  It's NOT waiting until trial.

        •  You may be blaming the victim here; (1+ / 0-)
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          yes, he may have done something that warranted the second arrest, which would be stupid.

          But, if the second arrest is not legit (as I suspect it is not), Charlie is the victim of abuse of power. How does having common sense prevent that ?

          That's like blaming a woman for being raped; blaming the uninusred for getting sick, and blaming the recently layed off for being unemployed.

          It's always easy to blame the victim. It makes us all feel better, because it doesn't seem like we're in danger -- "I've done nothing wrong, so they can't arrest me".

          And yet they can. They do. On trumped up charges. Every day, In this country.

    •  If it were up to me, it would be irrelevant. (5+ / 0-)

      Getting arrested for a non-violent crime shouldn't have any effect on the bail arising from the arrest of another non-violent crime.  It's just bootstrapping to have two arrests turn into an actual imprisonment.  

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