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  •  Major point to remember, no matter WHO Obama (3+ / 0-)
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    selects: HE will be making the decisions on where he wants this country to go. Obama made the "vision" thing very clear this morning.

    •  Some people here don't want to understand (3+ / 0-)
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      They want Obama to appoint 100% progressives even if they have no experience running government at the highest levels. Therefore, I wish to make the following request

      Barbra Streisand for Treasury Secretary

      Yes, that's overly, overly snarky but I wonder what some of these people want: You can't be on the verge of a depression and not bring in some people from the previous Democratic administration who are away of how to run the government on the highest levels.

      A fellow ain't got a soul of his own, just little piece of a big soul, the one big soul that belongs to everybody - Tom Joad, Grapes of Wrath

      by gladkov on Wed Nov 26, 2008 at 10:35:58 AM PST

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      •  Cry Me a River, dude but think about it: (5+ / 0-)

        She is a person of insights...

        On A Clear Day You can See Forever
        What Are You Doing the Rest of Your Life?
        The Way We Were
        Putting It Together

        So, hang on My might just have something there.

        A singing Treasurer just might help us feel like:

        Happy Days Are Here Again!
        Send In The Clowns

        Now, what to do with Shirley McClaine...

        When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

        by antirove on Wed Nov 26, 2008 at 11:01:31 AM PST

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      •  What if I said Sheila Bair instead of Geithner? (1+ / 0-)
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        Would that make me an idiot liberal?

        There are a lot of good choices outside the list of people who got us into this mess (summers, geithner)...

        It's not too much to ask for one non-deregulatory, non-trickle-down voice on the economic team?

        Is it too much to ask for one person who was right about the war in Defense or foreign policy?

        If you don't think there are talented, experienced progressives out there you're a fool. We are not getting the change we were promised, we are getting a coalition of centrists who were wrong about what was most important in our recent history.

        •  You have to give up on this idea (0+ / 0-)

          That personnel is policy. It is if you are an idiot like George Bush and demand no accountability, Obama will be hands-on and proactive.

          Regarding Geithner, no there is nothing wrong with suggesting more progressive voices, I would probably agree with you on most. But guess what, we are not the only audience he has to listen to - he has to calm financial markets, he has to make coalitions with various groups of people. Would it be to Obama's interest if, one the first round out, Republicans filibustered on some of his nominees and he were forced to withdraw them? That would undermine his ability from the beginning to make things done.

          Like it or not, Obama is NOT a huge progressive but I think he can get great things done for the country. Part of his strategy means making alliances, even with people he disagrees with. That means making some choices we as a progressive community may disagree with.

          A fellow ain't got a soul of his own, just little piece of a big soul, the one big soul that belongs to everybody - Tom Joad, Grapes of Wrath

          by gladkov on Wed Nov 26, 2008 at 12:59:25 PM PST

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          •  This isn't about ideological disagreements (2+ / 0-)
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            We're talking about people who have literally caused our financial crisis being given executive positions and charged with fixing it.

            I have no problem with Obama choosing centrists or center-right thinkers, as they as they weren't dead wrong about the most important issues of our time.

            People are policy, to a great extent. The president simply cannot write each policy of his cabinet members.

            Cabinet members are chosen for their ability to make decisions, not to carry out orders!

            •  I disagree on none of that (0+ / 0-)

              But I think you have to look at the basic nature of Washington DC: underlings often do things which they may not strongly believe in on behalf of the administration. Do you think Eric Holder had any say whatsoever on what policy was taken on many issues when he had to answer to Janet Reno, who had to answer to Clinton? I'd say very little. The history of government is filled with people who did things they were not completely on board with. I'm sure we can fill a room with people who objected to Don't Ask, Don't Tell, yet implemented the policy because the Clinton administration ordered it. That is the nature of politics. I saw Barbara Boxer, allegedly one of the most progressive politicians we have, come and support Joe Lieberman in the primary, telling us what a great progressive he is.

              Yes, there is a fine line. Some people comply with things to keep a job and out of loyalty to their superiors, or a presidential administration while others are ideologues, people who carried out the orders and firmly believed in them. These are the ones to avoid if they were behind bad policies. But it is hard to tell who is who - who would work differently if they were no longer an underling or are they an ideologue. I will admit to you, I don't know enough about economics to site the specific policies of Geithner which could make him a bad pick, I do know I trust Obama and I trust the circle which is advising him so far.

              A fellow ain't got a soul of his own, just little piece of a big soul, the one big soul that belongs to everybody - Tom Joad, Grapes of Wrath

              by gladkov on Wed Nov 26, 2008 at 01:37:57 PM PST

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              •  Well suffice it to say I will be looking forward (1+ / 0-)
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                to the confirmation hearings.

                Geithner is the mentee of Larry Summers, who is a famous deregulator (if only he had to go through a confirmation hearing) and the mentee of Rob Rubin (an even more famous deregulator).

                If Geithner recants the failed policies of deregulation during his hearings, I will give Obama credit for a mastere-stroke. He says, "Mistakes were made" and recants none of the ideological failings that led to this crisis, I will be furious.

                Only time will tell.

    •  How does he know what decisions to make (1+ / 0-)
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      without progressive advisers, without advice from people who got it right the first time around?

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