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  •  Am I the only one scared by the NDP Govt (4+ / 0-)
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    Last time they had the reins in Ontario, it was a disaster.

    •  Last time they had the reins in Ontario (4+ / 0-)

      the province was going through its worst recession since the Great Depression.  I don't think that was the NDP's fault - and in any event, they have delivered creditable governments in BC, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba.

      "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Trudeau

      by fishhead on Fri Nov 28, 2008 at 01:28:54 PM PST

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      •  Bob Rae came into power in 1990 (2+ / 0-)
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        as the recession was beggining.  Very similar to the situation we have today (although with higher interest rates. Fair or not, his economic policies at the time were awful and were directly relasted to the coming of that idiot Mike Harris.  His cap on the numbers of medical students graduating in Ontario schools as a way of curbing health was idiotic and still felt today.

        I am not going to argue their performance in the other provinces.  I think it has been awful as well  Suffice it that they are only in power in Manitoba today.  Doer's political leanings in Manitoba are far closer to Liberal than NDP.  In general in the west since the word liberal is a dirty word, the NDP party's have moved to the centre.

        •  Gee, I wouldn't call Bob Rae an NDP (2+ / 0-)
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          not then, not now.

          Behind every great man, there's a woman saying "Stand up straight"

          by captainlaser on Fri Nov 28, 2008 at 02:40:12 PM PST

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        •  Not exactly right... (1+ / 0-)
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          As a long-time Manitoban, I'd rather put it that the NDP and the Tories have managed to divide between them the middle ground that Liberals claimed for so long federally. In other words, Manitoba Conservatives are also much more to the centre than... say, Alberta's.

          For instance, Manitoba has government-run auto insurance (Autopac). That was introduced by the NDP, but the Tories have never tried to remove it.

          Folly is fractal: the closer you look at it, the more of it there is.

          by Canadian Reader on Fri Nov 28, 2008 at 03:10:04 PM PST

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    •  Jack is a pragmatist (4+ / 0-)

      He was President of the Canadian Association of Municipalities, full of rural hamlets as well as big cities. They loved him.

      He's not Bob Rae.

      Worry that Bob will win the Liberal nomination if that's your concern.

    •  A disaster, as compared to... (7+ / 0-)

      the utter armageddon we had to suffer at the hands of the Tories when they got in under Herr Harris?  Believe me, as a teacher, there were days under the Harris regime when I longed for "Rae days", as opposed to teaching all day without a break, which is what happened at one point.  The education system is still f-ed up thanks to the Tories and subsequent Liberal innaction.  History has shown that Harris' treatment of teachers was nothing but a personal vendetta.  Why else were his teaching employment files in Northern Ontario destroyed by his creatures?  He was forced out of teaching due to incompetence, so we had to bear the brunt of his bruised ego.  Give me the NDP over the Tories any day!

      A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. FDR

      by rufusthedog on Fri Nov 28, 2008 at 01:37:34 PM PST

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