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  •  A question. (6+ / 0-)

    How important was Zarqawi in the overall scheme of things? How significant a part of the overall insurgency is the organization called by the administration and media "al-Qaeda"? I really don't know but since the bush administration and their lapdogs in the media have been pushing this whole "al-Qaeda" connection as an excuse for the invasion and excuse for the continuing occupation I suspect the whole "Al Qaeda in Iraq" organization is not especially significant and is something of a bogeyman. I would not have even mentioned it but in this mornings NYTimes Friedman raises the issue yet again.

    Al Qaeda has not been fully defeated in Iraq; suicide bombings are still an almost daily reality. But it has been dealt a severe blow, which I believe is one reason the Muslim jihadists — those brave warriors who specialize in killing women and children and defenseless tourists — have turned their attention to softer targets like India. Just as they tried to stoke a Shiite-Sunni civil war in Iraq, and failed, they are now trying to stoke a Hindu-Muslim civil war in India.

            http://www.nytimes.com/...
            My opinion is that the insurgency we are fighting in Iraq has nothing to do with the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 and it sounds like Friedman is trying to tie the attack in Mumbai to al-Qaeda as well.

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

    by irate on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 04:00:22 AM PST

    •  With Invasion and Occupation.......... (7+ / 0-)

      How important was Zarqawi in the overall scheme of things?

      Treating 'Terrorism' as a War and Nation Building and Not the Criminal Acts they are, as we wage our own 'Terror' on innocents, we create greater numbers of those who replace the Zargawi's and bin Laden's, and as the World just witnessed, it only takes a small handfull to Freeze a Country in Death and Destruction!!

      Though it's way to late to reverse what has been, hopefully the incoming Administration and Congress reverses the Destructive Policies carried out and does what We Should Have After 9/11.

      Use Law Enforcement of the Countries who were more than willing right after that, and Law Abiding Intelligence combined with Possible Military forces when needed to Beat Down the Criminal Element of Terror and not wage anymore of our own!!

      That's the only question I have as to the appointment of Hillary as SoS, does she Get It, Obama has shown he does, will he continue that direction!!!

      "For all the GOP's patriotic imagery and testosterone-infused rhetoric,Results: Failed Policies Across the Spectrum

      by jimstaro on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 04:58:13 AM PST

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    •  Friedman's column illustrates that he still has a (2+ / 0-)
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      few Friedman units he's holding in reserve.

      His argument remains that we just need a little more time and everything will work out swimmingly in Iraq.

      In so many ways Friedman is a realist, particularly when it comes to identifying global economic trends and how we should prepare to meet the challenges. Yet when it comes to the War in Iraq and the so-called War on Terrorism, he's hopelessly delusional - neither a realist, nor a neo-con.  

      I've yet to discern any logic in his pro-war arguments aside from a desire that U.S. hegemony prevail.

      "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." JFK - January 20, 1961

      by rontun on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 05:33:15 AM PST

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      •  The fight in Iraq is not now or ever been .,, (5+ / 0-)
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        with al-Qaeda, and I find his attempt to tie the recent attack in India to that organization worrisome. All terrorists are not "al-Qaeda".

        CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

        by irate on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 05:42:04 AM PST

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      •  Abbreviated Friedman (1+ / 0-)
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        Yeah Team! Go Team! Rah! Rah! Rah!

        There's the logic.

      •  Captain Obvious / The Moustache of Understanding (0+ / 0-)

        Tom Friedman and his fellow corrupt pundit-apologists, according to Driftglass:
        http://driftglass.blogspot.com/...

        Friedman cannot bring himself to “report” on this simple, observable “reality” that anyone with half a mind and three working senses can perceive all around them; the same reality that the Conservative John Dean wrote about in “Conservatives Without Conscience” or the Conservative Kevin Phillips wrote about in “American Theocracy”. That America is being destroyed at every level by the deliberate actions of Authoritarian[s], and that with virtually no exception, all the fucking Authoritarian[s] are now conveniently gathered in one political Party.

        But to face that vital and overwhelmingly obvious fact, Captain Obvious would have to give up being a lying, gutless “Add both sides and divide by two” Centrist.

        And the minute that happened Friedman would perish in a puff of epiphanic stink, so don’t hold your breath.

        See the national finals of Dutch children's chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen's 2008 Song Contest December 14 in Hoorn!

        by lotlizard on Mon Dec 01, 2008 at 04:04:18 AM PST

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