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  •  I will add that my Great Grandfather died (3+ / 0-)
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    of an absessed tooth because he did not have access to healthcare.  Recently here in DC a young boy died of an absessed tooth because his family did not have access to healthcare.  My Grandfather's story is one that I always thought we in this country had left to the annals of history.  It is ridiculous that we are repeating that history.

    •  the problem is staggering (2+ / 0-)
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      and very real. And unlike the McCain team, we don't think going to the ER is the answer.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 07:38:37 AM PST

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    •  What the heck is it that teeth (2+ / 0-)
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      aren't part of your body? Sigh.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 08:04:08 AM PST

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    •  Yet we're willing to let adults die (1+ / 0-)
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      in favor of only pushing for health coverage for children, when we could cover both.

      That's the part I don't understand - throwing uninsured adults overboard because we don't have the courage to ensure coverage for all.  Its silly, its wrong, its tragic.

      •  I'm not and SCHIP isn't remotely good enough. (1+ / 0-)
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        For instance, a parent gets sick and can't afford to go to the doctor - so the parent gets the kids sick - where if we would treat the adult at the first sign of illness we'd be more likely to help keep the kids from getting sick.  I mean it is really stupid to think that we are "saving money" by only covering the kids - we may well just be spending more money as a result because say three kids who might not have needed treatment are all of a sudden in the system.  We could have treated one person and then we end up treating three instead.  I'd say that's teh STUPID.

    •  Even insured people have died from absessed teeth (1+ / 0-)
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      This story has become an urban legend healthcare horror story.  I have seen people who have access to healthcare die from absessed teeth.  Called Ludwig's Angina, this condition starts with poor oral hygeine, neglect of daily brushing/flossing and in the insured people I have seen die,  a fear of going to dentist. An abscess in any part of the mouth or body can be deadly.

      •  Not an urban legend since it actually happens n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

        by elfling on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 08:53:07 AM PST

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        •  Preventive tooth care (0+ / 0-)

          My point is, a six year old with an abscessed tooth is the fault of the parent, not the broken health care system. That cavity came from the parent putting the kid to bed with a bottle, not teaching the kid to brush and floss, allowing too much sugar and inadequate calcium intake. It's not right to blame "the health care system" for a six year who died from a rotten tooth. Since we starting adding fluoride to water, teeth don't rot as easily unless simple oral hygiene is neglected. Take some responsibility for our own good health.  Free, universal health and dental care will not solve the increase in diseases due to lack of exercise, overeating, and poor parenting.

          •  You should learn about the story before (1+ / 0-)
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            elfling

            taking your grand personal responsibility stand here.

            Deamonte Driver, a 12-year-old homeless child, died Sunday in a District hospital after an infection from a molar spread to his brain.

            At the time he fell ill, his family's Medicaid coverage had lapsed. Even on the state plan, his mother said, the children lacked regular dental care and she had great difficulty finding a dentist.

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

            Given that this kid was homeless and probably eating whatever he could get at shelters, you might want to take this up with the foodbanks.  And damn his mother for not insisting that these kids find a public restroom each morning and evening where they could brush and floss properly. sheesh

            Not for nothin', some people are just born with problematic teeth.

            •  That's a powerful post (0+ / 0-)

              inclusiveheart,
              and your persistence and wisdom in addressing the needs of this deceased 12-year-old, Daemonte Driver, and his mother and family, along with our nation's homeless, are appreciated.
              You reached out to many minds and hearts today.

              Strength through Peace.

              by Billdbq on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 11:27:21 AM PST

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