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  •  That's the sort of thing you can say (3+ / 0-)
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    when you don't spend much time talking to voters.

    Some informed and intelligent people remained undecided until towards the very end.  Some of this was because rejecting Republicanism, after the past 30 years, required unlearning some entrenched habits and ripping apart some emotional bonds.  Obama did run a careful race, which often meant using a lot of generalities on policy, campaigning on stylistic abstractions like "hope," and asking to be trusted.  My judgment was and remains that he is trustworthy and that there is basis for hope, but it's not like it's crazy not to accept that.

    Many voters were worried that Obama was far to the left -- which, incidentally, is what many of us hope that he will turn out to be, so it's not a ridiculous concern -- a placement they rejected because of, among other things, decades of media villification of the left (as well as, it must be conceded, past failures among the successes among progressive policies.)  Four years from now, they may love the fact that Obama was as progressive as we hope he will turn out to be.  But that will take some relearning.

    Meanwhile, our job is to rehabilitate our side of the political spectrum in the eyes of voters not already committed to it.  This will take some time.

    The netroots is what the Letters to the Editor page wanted to be when it grew up.

    by Seneca Doane on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 11:24:21 AM PST

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    •  indeed (4+ / 0-)
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      and the Colin Powell endorsement loomed large for many of those voters.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 11:33:07 AM PST

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    •  well put, as ususal. (1+ / 0-)
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      I actually had some conversations with those folks, but I came away with a very strange feeling, like they had an opaque screen drawn down somewhere in their brain, in fact much like a learning disability (and these were not stupid people in most other senses).  Especially after the crash and the demonstrable failure of the conservative economic paradigm, they were really trying to sort it out.

      Not having a tv, I tend to discount the effect of the TM on folks, of course, and just like anybody, I operate out of a self-organized perspective which is by nature prejudiced.  

      Still and all, I'd wager that there were as many tabloid-oriented wafflers (drawn as much to Obama's personal magnetism as to McCain and Palin's soap opera narrative) out there as there were of the truly intellectually confounded that you describe.

      "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you can succeed." -Nancy Pelosi, 6/29/07.

      by nailbender on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 03:32:29 PM PST

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