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  •  New Orleans is about to demolish old schools... (6+ / 0-)

    beautiful old buildings that could be renovated, and they will be replaced with far fewer new, charter schools.

    It's a war here against the public schools system, much like in Chicago, and the buildings are the victims also.

    •  Renovation isn't part of the plan anywhere (4+ / 0-)

      My beautiful old high school was just torn down, all the other elementary schools in the city abandoned and replaced by a sprawling monstrosity that cost $35 million.

      We are all droogie6655321

      by Buckeye BattleCry on Sun Dec 21, 2008 at 07:03:02 AM PST

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      •  Sometimes, there's a reason for that (2+ / 0-)
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        often those old buildings can't handle the new infrastructure needed. HVAC is old, and may not be very efficient or upgradable. The buildings may be full of asbestos and lead (which is very possible), with abatement costing more than a new building.

        However, there's no reason why some of the old structure and/or materials can't be recycled. Maybe those old wood floors could be used in the new building. Maybe some of the marble could be made into new flooring, or counters, or a mosaic.

        Not everything needs to be thrown away.

        •  In the case of my city's SD (3+ / 0-)
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          the state wouldn't fund anything but the new construction project.  It was quite a controversy, especially since the rest of the funding had to come from a ballot initiative property tax hike.  It took like 4 attempts to pass it because most everyone wanted to keep the old schools.

          We are all droogie6655321

          by Buckeye BattleCry on Sun Dec 21, 2008 at 07:30:16 AM PST

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        •  Here in Winchester (1+ / 0-)
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          the city ran a cost estimate on what it would take to replace Handley High School (beautiful old building dating back to 1923) with a modern new buiding, vs. what it would cost to refurbish it inside and out and bring it up to current code.

          They opted for the full restoration, even though it would cost more.

          Yes We Did! Yes We Will!

          by TheOtherMaven on Sun Dec 21, 2008 at 08:38:50 AM PST

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      •  our old school was condemned (3+ / 0-)

        We had an aging elementary school built in the 1920s that would have cost 20 million to rennovate, and it would have still been too small for our needs.

        The building was condemned, with asbestos in the basement.  It needed to be gutted, and it would have taken about a year to get it student-ready again.

        Fortunately, rather than tear it down completely, we built a new one across the street -- inside other historical buildings that were expanded and modified -- and put the old building up for auction.  Last I heard, a medical company had purchased the building to retrofit it for medical labs.  No matter what building they purchased, it would have cost around that much to install labs anyway, so they didn't mind having to gut it to ground level.

        New isn't always bad, especially if it lets the old get recycled properly.

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