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  •  Who is forcing anyone to do anything? (0+ / 0-)

    This law is all about forcing people to stop doing things.

    And I would bet that you can't open up "Dr. Demento's Christian Medicine" because you aren't a doctor and it is illegal to practice medicine without a license.  But that is just a guess and I could be wrong.

    •  I recommend a female MD then. (0+ / 0-)

      I have no problem with your right to abort your own child. I just don't want to be part of it. Nor contribute funding to it. Capish?

      •  You already aren't, (1+ / 0-)
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        or if you are you should quit your job and find a new one.  

        Let's say you were a board certified MD.  Do you really think that you should have an equal shot at a job performing abortions as an MD who actually performs abortions?

        This law says that you do.

        Lets step away from abortion.  Do you think that someone who doesn't believe in blood transfusions should be allowed to run a blood bank and therefore refuse blood to an entire hospital?  Do you think that someone who thinks all products of IVF are abominations should be allowed to deny antibiotics to a 6 month old with an ear infection?

        This law is insane.

    •  You are correct. (0+ / 0-)

      I am no MD.

      Perhaps I should have written "Why can't a doctor open up..."

      Why do you wish to question my (credentials? knowledge? training?) rather than debate my question?

      I repeat, under what conditions is it OK to force me to perform any procedure on you?  I agree this is a slippery topic. I have no qualms letting you kill your unborn child. Your body your child. Just don't force me to participate in any way!

      I bet we could go on till we are both blue and not agree on much.

      Viva la differance!

      •  What question do you want to debate? (1+ / 0-)
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        I really don't know where you were going with that.  The only reason I can think of that someone wouldn't be able to open up said clinic is because they weren't certified.  Most MDs don't perform abortions...

        I don't see anything anywhere about forcing anybody to do anything.  The only possible situation where it would be unethical for a doctor not to perform an abortion would be in an ER when the patient would die before another physician could get there and the baby isn't anywhere near term.

        Why do you think anyone should be able to force anyone else to do something?

        I'm arguing that someone who wants to perform abortions should be able to hire staff who also want to perform abortions.  Make sense?  

        The doctor who wants to perform abortions shouldn't be able to force people to work with them.  But they should be able to pick through the candidates for the job and hire the ones who want to help with abortions.

        •  I agree andromeda (0+ / 0-)

          and thank you for the informed debate. Will now troll on over to a conservative web site and see what kind of fun we can have.

          Seriously, thank you for your data and discussion.

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