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  •  They did use "exploration" as (3+ / 0-)
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    a cornerstone in the paper I thought. Did it seem to you they want something big and bold for mars?

    •  This part: (2+ / 0-)
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      "A new human spaceflight policy
      should clarify the expected size
      and duration of a U.S. lunar
      presence and direct the balance
      between the moon, Mars, and
      other destinations in exploration
      programs."

      It sounds like me when I did that NASA get bogged down on the moon entry.

      They want a time CERTAIN on a lunar presence because they feel it will eliminate future alternative places to go if we are committing everything to a moon base.

      They seem to also want timelines for going to mars and asteroid missions and the funding chains should already be started.

      •  I disagree about Moon versus Mars (3+ / 0-)
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        Ares V is a Mars ship. No propellant depots and a plan to "exit from the Moon" to not get bogged down with a lunar ISS.

        No lunar ISRU for example in ESAS.

        Mike Griffin is a Mars first guy, except that NASA cannot do that safely. The Moon is for practice.

        Health care crisis in a nutshell: Too much is expended on "managing" & too little on "caregiving"

        by Bill White on Mon Dec 22, 2008 at 09:29:23 PM PST

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        •   like land a couple times then off to mars? (1+ / 0-)
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          •  Precisely! Recent Congressional testimony, (2+ / 0-)
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            well from last Spring (if I recall correctly) confirms this. Lunar infrastructure (development) is seen as a bug rather than a feature.

            NasaSpaceflight had a thread on this.

            We will spend every available penny supporting a small lunar base and never get to Mars in our lifetimes, that is the fear. Solution? Prepare to abandon the Moon after we practice and NOT deploy infrastructure that will make it harder to withdraw.

            A crude and rude metaphor for this strategy is "shiksas are for practice" -- the Moon is for practice and Mars is the goal.

            Health care crisis in a nutshell: Too much is expended on "managing" & too little on "caregiving"

            by Bill White on Mon Dec 22, 2008 at 09:43:50 PM PST

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