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  •  I recommned that you (1+ / 0-)
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    try to understand that there's something deeply irritating about trying to turn a long standing social problem into a sound bite for a particular politician.

    The agony of Rust Belt America is more than a backdrop for the Barack Obama story, it's millions of working people's lives. And it would do well to show some goddamn respect for that instead of turning it into a political football.

    by ManfromMiddletown on Mon Dec 29, 2008 at 12:11:35 PM PST

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    •  there's good organizing and poor organizing (4+ / 0-)
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      Simplify, juancito, kyril, Dirtandiron

      A condescending organizer, whether a union organizer (and there are plenty of lousy union organizers too) or a community organizer, is just a crappy organizer.

      Community organizing, done effectively builds power, and with due respect to Debs, does so by challenging people to become effective leaders.

      Done poorly, it can do any number of useless or destructive things, including being an outlet for the messianic fantasies of the person trying to organize.

      We probably shouldn't dismiss the entire concept of community organizing based on the particular experiences of post-industrial midwest communities with the IAF/Alinsky model. Some good things and some bad things came out of that experience, in which millions of people, as you point out, were struggling with mass economic trauma on a scale almost unheard of in US history.

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