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  •  so what you are saying is. (0+ / 0-)

    this: Once all the factions in Gaza stop their actions against Israel, then Israel will allow the children of Gaza to live? You really think so?

    Free Muntadhar al-Zaidi! and buy that man a new pair of shoes!

    by Tom J on Wed Dec 31, 2008 at 05:01:12 AM PST

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    •  I know so. (0+ / 0-)

      Absolutely.  

      Read the first part of the Road Map to Peace.

      Phase I: End to Palestinian violence; Palestinian political reform;

      This has never happened.  Never.

      Remember July 1, 2003? The first-ever ceremonial opening to peace talks between Palestinians and Israelis.  

      You are really great at making lists of Israeli actions, but you only list the effect, you almost always leave out the cause.  As if the actions against Gaza happen in a vacuum.

      July 1, 2003 was just one more chance to start fresh.  A cease-fire in place.   No more violence against civilians.  

      Now recall TWO suicide bombings on August 12.  Both supported by Fatah, the supposed moderate.

      The only correction to your statement I would make is that it is not Israel that stops the children of Gaza living, but the Palestinian leadership that fills them with hate, and educates them to kill.

      Once all the factions in Gaza stop their actions against Israel, then the children of Gaza will have a chance to grow up and live great lives, just like the millions of Israeli Arabs, who live in Israel just like the jews.  Who vote just like the jews, get elected to office in the same parliament as jews, own businesses with jews, next to jews, own houses in the same cities as jews, ride the same buses as Jews..... All proving that there is no Apartheid in Israel.  (However in Gaza and most of the Arab / muslim countries, there is not the same equality for jews, or christians for that matter)

      •  Until Israel demand are met, the children of Gaza (0+ / 0-)

        must starve. that is the direct results of Israel's policy before Israel started the bombing campaign. malnutrition was a direct result of Israel's policies.
        any human rights organization/humanitarian organization operating in the area is going to say the same thing.

        It is these actions that teach every decent human to hate the israeli regime. we should no more love israel than love the Bush administration. that is sickness, not love.

        genocide. i oppose it. obviously Daily Kos people disagree on this issue.

        Free Muntadhar al-Zaidi! and buy that man a new pair of shoes!

        by Tom J on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 07:46:48 AM PST

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        •  Hamas must be allowed to continue (0+ / 0-)

          their stated policy of killing all the jews.  

          Right?

          And those jews?  They must stand there and be killed.  Defending themselves against being wiped off the earth (again) is the actions that teach every decent anti semite to hate jews.

          Human right groups in the area cannot tell you the truth of the situation.  Most of them in the area are run locally by palestinians, who are not impartial.  Or worse run by the UN, who is the most corrupt organization on the planet.

          Pal leadership has the money for rockets, missiles, guns, bombs, and everything they need to target civilians.  

          Use the sugar for food instead of rockets.  Use the fertilizer to grow plants (in some of the most fertile land in the world) instead of to build bombs.

          Use the aid they are given to help their society, instead of corruption, and violence.

          Firing rockets into Israel, targeting civilians is not a way to feed Hamas children.

          When Hamas wants to feed their children, they will be able to.

          "Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

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