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  •  Liberman (8+ / 0-)

    retains his chairmanship.Stevens a convicted felon
    recieves a standing ovation..But REID SUDDENLY HAS CONVICTIONS?

    This is quilt(burris)by association(blogo) .After wright,ayers etc. This is ludicrous.

    "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem to lightly."-Thomas Paine

    by brklynbrn on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 06:17:09 PM PST

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    •  Lierberman is a partisan issue not an ethics (1+ / 0-)
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      issue.

      "Liberals are never so happy as when they are unhappy."--LBJ

      by Micheline on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 06:41:24 PM PST

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      •  oh really.... (2+ / 0-)
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        what is the ethics violation Burris is accused of?

        this is just as much a partisan issue, it is Democrats trying to save themselves from media questions, that could be easily answered...

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        by justmy2 on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 06:52:48 PM PST

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        •  It is an ethics issue because you have a governor (2+ / 0-)
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          who is incredibly corrupt. He used his power granted by the constitution to say fuck you to the Democratic leadership. Blagojevich didn't do this for the common good nor out of the goodness of his heart. This was appointment was unexpected. If Blagojevich was such a good Democrat he would have not try to sell the Senate seat. And for Burris to accept this appointment shows how stupid he is. I now understand why he kept losing.

          "Liberals are never so happy as when they are unhappy."--LBJ

          by Micheline on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 07:05:20 PM PST

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          •  Beyond ethics == legal corruption .. any ... (1+ / 0-)
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            democrat could have appointed any damn democrat.

            Blagojevich is trying to save his neck by trying to start a racial shit storm via Burris and Bobby Rush.

          •  who is allegedly corrupt (1+ / 0-)
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            He used his power granted by the constitution to say fuck you to the Democratic leadership.

            he has used his "legal" power to screw democrats...

            Blagojevich didn't do this for the common good nor out of the goodness of his heart.

            the goodness of his heart has no legal implications...

            This was appointment was unexpected.

            the apppointment should have been expected when Harry Reid sent a letter to the IL Legislature asking the special election not be held..,

            If Blagojevich was such a good Democrat he would have not try to sell the Senate seat.

            He isn't a good Democrat...but again, that is meaningless.  He was elected, and has not been impeached.

            And for Burris to accept this appointment shows how stupid he is.

            And yup, Burris is self serving...

            And NONE of that changes the fact the appointment was legal, and the media circus that the Democrats are about to start is a ridiculous move politically...

            As I have consistently said, just because we think the law doesn't fit our goals, doesn't mean we turn into Tom Delay and find loopholes to get that result.  Isn't that what we are against?

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            by justmy2 on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 07:13:38 PM PST

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            •  He is hiding behind the law. (0+ / 0-)

              His intent was to create discord.

              "Liberals are never so happy as when they are unhappy."--LBJ

              by Micheline on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 07:20:05 PM PST

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              •  So what...we agree... (2+ / 0-)
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                Maybe the 17th amendment should have read..."The Governor shall have the right to appoint a Senator, as long as it doesn't cause political discord to his own party".

                But unfortunately, I don't think that language made it in.

                We agree.  Blagojevich is using his power to appoint to stick it to Dems.  They had a chance to do the same thing by calling a special election.  They chose not to.  

                No of that means we now get to make up a new interpretation of the law because we don't like the result.

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                by justmy2 on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 07:24:41 PM PST

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            •  Tom Delay was corrupt (0+ / 0-)

              And he will be impeached.

              The Democrats will find a way:

                 Senate officials tell Politico that if presented with the appointment, they are likely to give the Rules Committee 90 days to determine the propriety of the appointment by looking into such issues as whether Blagojevich received anything in return for it.

                 "A motion to refer credentials to the committee has the effect of delaying seating," a Senate Democratic aide said. "The motion is debatable and amendable."

                 Another official explained: "That buys us 90 days."

                 That should be enough so the senators won’t have to act to prevent Burris from joining the chamber. Blagojevich’s defiance inflamed Illinois legislators, speeding up the impeachment process.

                 "He will not be governor by Valentine’s Day," the official said.

                 President-elect Obama plans to say as little about the matter as possible. But an official said he will declare when pressed that the Senate is well within its bounds not to seat Burris, and that it would be difficult for anyone to work effectively with this kind of cloud over them.

              "Liberals are never so happy as when they are unhappy."--LBJ

              by Micheline on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 07:24:00 PM PST

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              •  Tom Delay was corrupt (1+ / 0-)
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                My.Point.Exactly.

                Is that what we should be aspiring to?

                And Dems will find a way...and they will be saying "who could have imagined" when Republican try to widen the investigation, when the media circus focuses exclusively on this nonsense instead of the stimulus package, when Obama is dragged back into it, and when Blagojevich gets off because they "taint" Fitzgerald's investigation through their foolish efforts.

                Par for the course for Democrats.   Stir something up that will only hurt you...unreal...

                Need Support Barack? Give Joe Lieberman and Rick Warren a call. Maybe they can help you.

                by justmy2 on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 07:28:12 PM PST

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          •  Some rule of law (0+ / 0-)

            in the land formerly known as America clearly states everyone is innocent until proven guilty.  The proof has yet to be offered up in a court of law and in front of a jury of his peers.  Blago is presumed innocent.

            Every time history repeats itself, the price goes up... Mind Sorbet

            by Pithy Cherub on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 07:38:07 PM PST

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            •  That's a false analogy... (0+ / 0-)

              You are comparing a criminal case to the senate judging the standard as allowed by the constitution.

              The law as has been shown NUMEROUS times is not clear on the senate's ability to block the appointment.

              •  Review again the context (1+ / 0-)
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                of the comment to for which I replied to ensure you understand.  

                Blago was accused does not yet make him guilty. The Senate is pretending they have jurisdiction over a legal appointment.  The fact that Blago was arrested, did not weaken his gubernatorial powers.  The senate, however, is in rapid descent on what they can do legally to stop a lawful appointment without resorting to embarrassing contortions.

                Every time history repeats itself, the price goes up... Mind Sorbet

                by Pithy Cherub on Thu Jan 01, 2009 at 08:05:58 PM PST

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      •  Lieberman = weak false analogy enough..nt. (1+ / 0-)
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