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  •  Two points. (1+ / 0-)
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    Appeals to the size of the population of the state are a bit erroneous when talking about the Senate.  The entire purpose of it is to give all states equal representation despite population.  I think it's more effective to say that they're denying any state half of its representation in a chamber of commerce.  It doesn't matter how big the state is.  I mean- would it be more okay if the state being deprived of half its representation in the Senate were the spartanly populated North Dakota?  No- it wouldn't.  All states are supposed to be equal in representation in the Senate, so it doesn't matter that the state in this case is the fifth most populous.  Population has nothing to do with Senate representation.

    Secondly, I strongly feel that Burris will just be keeping a seat warm for a Republican in 2010.  I don't see a machine state like Illinois ousting an incumbent, and Burris has already been rejected repeatedly by the citizens of Illinois.  He could maybe, possibly, potentially be ousted in a primary.  But how successful has our side been with primarying opponents out of office?

    It's a messed up situation, for sure.  The best would be if Blago just got impeached.  Second best would be if strong Democratic candidates started announcing their 2010 Senatorial intentions on, say, the day after Burris is seated.

    Otherwise- there's a strong chance that come January 2011 half of the Senatorial representation in the fifth most populous state in the nation will be Republican.

    may you live in interesting times

    by electricgrendel on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 02:29:48 PM PST

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    •  Proofreading and I have another falling out. (1+ / 0-)
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      "Chamber of commerce" = Chamber of CONGRESS.

      may you live in interesting times

      by electricgrendel on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 02:31:36 PM PST

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    •  2010... (4+ / 0-)

      ...is a long way off.  And don't write Burris off.  He's been out of the game for awhile, but he has strong support in all quarters of the state.

      If Madigan runs, Madigan wins, but she wants the governorship.

      If White runs, White wins, but he hasn't shown any indication that he wants to give up SoS.

      So.  Fine.  Who else?

      In the meantime, what Republican do you see in that Open Senate Seat in 2010?  Kirk?  He'd have to give up his "safe" House seat for a far less than sure thing in the Senate.  Baar-Topinka?  She lost to Blagojevich?  Ditka?  No stomach for it.  Oberweis?  The guy can't win an open R+4 House seat.  Do I hear Alan Keyes?  

      The only chance the reddies have at this seat is if there's an open election and Kirk can run without giving up his House seat.  Otherwise, this is blue for the next generation or so... despite Blago.

      The Republican Party: the party of greed, hate, anger, fear, waste, death and destruction!

      by ultrageek on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 02:38:30 PM PST

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      •  I certainly hope you're right. (0+ / 0-)

        Burris has failed to get through a Dem primary for this spot four different times.  He couldn't even get out of the primary for the governorship, and lost the election for Chicago mayor.  He seems to be exceptionally full of himself, and it seems like most Dems don't like that in a leader.

        You definitely know more about IL politics than I do, so I very much hope you're right. To me, however, it just seems like Burris at 73 will be a prime target given both the circumstance of his entering the chamber, his age, his lack of seniority and his failure in statewide primaries in the recent past.

        may you live in interesting times

        by electricgrendel on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 02:45:36 PM PST

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        •  Feh. (1+ / 0-)
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          The Democratic Bench is very very deep.  The Republican bench is non-existent.

          The only way the reddies get this seat is with a special election.

          And, of course he didn't win the mayoral race.  Duh.  The better question is the governorship, which he lost to Blago, as did a lot of other people.

          Don't sweat 2010.  Illinois is just getting bluer.

          The Republican Party: the party of greed, hate, anger, fear, waste, death and destruction!

          by ultrageek on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 03:45:11 PM PST

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        •  Yes, (4+ / 0-)
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          he has lost several Democratic primaries.  He has not lost a general election.  Ultrageek is right about the sorry state of the GOP in my state.

          The frogurt is also cursed. -8.25, -6.51

          by Superribbie on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 03:59:57 PM PST

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    •  While this is well considered, I have a hard time (0+ / 0-)

      believing that Illinois will elect a Repug Senator.  I'm more likely to believe that they'll oust Burris in the Primary.

      "You don't want to swallow something from Rush's butt. You just don't." - Al Franken

      by rainmanjr on Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 04:09:24 PM PST

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    •  Wrong Electricgrendel (0+ / 0-)

      You wrote:  "Appeals to the size of the population of the state are a bit erroneous when talking about the Senate.  The entire purpose of it is to give all states equal representation despite population."  Because the Founders allowed small states equal representation in the Senate regardless of population (otherwise, those states would not have ratified) it is even MORE imperative that a state as populous as Illinois have its alotment of 2 senators.  Your post is illogical.

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