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  •  pass with 60 votes (11+ / 0-)

    and when it works, the GOP is in the wilderness for a generation.

    I am repeating myself, and thats ok.

    by mickslam on Tue Jan 06, 2009 at 02:40:22 PM PST

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    •  And if it doesn't (9+ / 0-)

      Dems will be blamed no matter what.

      Leadership is ownership.

      •  Bingo. (1+ / 0-)
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        Look, the public has already accepted the Keynesian premise here.  Our people did a great job selling it right out of the gate, and a lot of Republican economists -- almost all of them, really -- joined us.  It's been sold.  The public knows it's got to be enormous.  And now Obama and the Dems need to get off their asses and deliver a bill that will do it.

        "Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thought on the unthinking." - John Maynard Keynes

        by Drew J Jones on Tue Jan 06, 2009 at 03:46:13 PM PST

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    •  We cannot assume that this is a one-bill (1+ / 0-)
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      fix.  If this is really a process, then we might need those GOP votes down the line.  Also, if we want to make things easier for us in the future, we will be smart to do whatever is necessary to make sure that there is a strong moderate group of GOP Congressmen.  That has been what has killed the country...the GOP with only conservatives of the Gingrich/DeLay/Armey version who saw getting and holding power as the only purpose of their party.
        During the times of the greatest growth of the middle class the Democrats were in power but they had the support of a small group of moderate Republicans who could shift the power to the progressive side.  
        Few people know it because all the credit went to LBJ but someone recently pointed out that the first pen Johnson gave out as he signed the voting rights bill went to Republican Senator Everett Dirkson from Illinois, because he was instrumental in breaking the fillabuster that had keep the bill in gridlock...a gridlock supported by those good old southern DEMOCRATS.  And during Truman's administration Congressman Joe Martin, a Sam Rayburn close friend, made the difference in moves toward more progressive legislation.
        What I am suggesting is that history teaches us that the legislative process works better when both sides have a stake in the outcome.  Obama is a student of history and knows that.  Don't sell him short.

      ...Former candidate for Congress.

      by Steve Love on Tue Jan 06, 2009 at 04:20:46 PM PST

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      •  great comment (0+ / 0-)

        We might be needing those votes next year, or in september of this year.  

        If that is the case, making them part of the process now will pay off hugely then.  

        I am repeating myself, and thats ok.

        by mickslam on Tue Jan 06, 2009 at 04:29:20 PM PST

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