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  •  But reflexive cynicism is so EASY! (4+ / 0-)
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    askew, pamelabrown, The Field, abrauer

    It requires no emotional or mental investment.  Just a droopy-eyed slouch and the ability to mutter smugly "I told you so" even when nothing's happened to justify it.

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    by Phoenix Woman on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 10:45:09 AM PST

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    •  Nothing's happened? (2+ / 0-)
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      desmoinesdem, TomP


      And nothing's easier than worship.

      •  Who's engaging in worship? (3+ / 0-)
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        America, we are better than these last eight years. We are a better country than this. - President Obama

        by GN1927 on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:05:03 AM PST

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      •  Worship of cynicism? (11+ / 0-)

        The left's worship of cynicism drains it of energy.  Meanwhile, the right doesn't suffer from the need to continually say "don't bother doing anything, it's all hopeless".  

        One of the sad things in my lifetime was watching progressive groups pull out of electoral politics just as the conservative groups were increasing their political activism.  A lot of it was due to the lingering Marxist belief that participating in electoral politics was helping to prop up a system that was best left to rot so that the glorious worker's revolution could finally happen; one of the more entertaining parts of being on various Socialist and Communist listservs in the early 1990s was watching as people chewed out David McReynolds and Gus Hall for running for president -- not because they hadn't a chance in hell of winning, but because they were validating the democratic-capitalist system by participating in it.  The residue of that belief filtered down through the leftist community, until people who had never heard of Das Kapital, much less Gus Hall, were infected by the "what's the use, they're all the same" bug.

        I originally backed John Edwards, and was heartbroken when his lack of a base forced him out of the race.  But really, he was an object lesson for us all:

        1. The netroots, by itself, can't get somebody nominated for president, much less into the White House.  This is because the netroots, while it's often good at raising money and disseminating information, falls down at the more basic parts of politics.
        1. A strong physical political base is needed, complete with boots on the ground.  As Al here will tell you, netroots progressives all too often think they can do it all with their keyboards.  You can't.  Conservatives know better -- that's why they are so nice to the Fundies, because the Fundies are their boots on the ground: Their doorknockers, lit-droppers, map-makers, info-getters, and pavement-pounders.

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        by Phoenix Woman on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 11:05:24 AM PST

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    •  my posture is fine, thank you (2+ / 0-)
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      And don't blame me for the fact that Obama's not stacking his cabinet with progressives.

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      by desmoinesdem on Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 10:48:22 AM PST

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