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  •  It's a good diary but..... (6+ / 0-)

    I'm real sad because it looks like nobody understood it, nobody gets it.

    I live in MI. I get it. Muskegon's just like he says. So's Greenville but without the beach. So's Saginaw but with gangs. So's Detroit but there's not even a chance of being a criminal as there is nothing left to steal. So's Flint but there's just nothing. So's Clare but the McDonald's is hiring........

    •  I think people got it (3+ / 0-)
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      jennifree2bme, Paper Cup, miss SPED

      It's the contrast between what was (and could be) with what is that's so striking.

      Procrastination: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.

      by Linnaeus on Wed Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35:28 PM PST

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    •  I think (4+ / 0-)

      this sort of thing is happening throughout the rustbelt states, and yet so few people know about it outside the region. When dialog does occur, it's about the unions or it's about manufacturers. But there's so little representation and coverage about what's been happening here for at least a decade. I think it's been going on so long, it seems normal to those of us in it. Why discuss what seems normal? But I've found over and over that people outside the area Don't Know.

      "Everybody just needs to stop being stupid and everything will be fine." --Me

      by Muskegon Critic on Wed Jan 14, 2009 at 10:41:17 PM PST

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      •  You're right (4+ / 0-)

        I am almost thirty years old. I made more money as a sixteen year old kid than I do now. I fully expected that if the whole college thing didn't work out I would be able to get a job that paid a living wage that I could work my way up in. Didn't happen for me, that's why I'm back in school.

        It did happen for my relatives in various parts of the country that are/were doing better economically. They got a low level job with a good company and worked up to good career type jobs without a college education. That opportunity doesn't exist like it used to in Michigan, Ohio, and probably the other rustbelt states.

      •  Not a big fan of Billy Joel, but (1+ / 0-)
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        he nailed it with "Allentown." Everytown, U.S.A., is becoming Allentown.

        "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

        by Geenius at Wrok on Thu Jan 15, 2009 at 05:50:25 AM PST

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      •  I think they know; I wonder if they care? (2+ / 0-)
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        marjo, jennifree2bme

        For the longest time the "rustbelt" states have contributed more to the nation's taxes than they have received in funding.  Some of that has allowed other states to bribe manufacturing to relocate by offering tax breaks knowing that there is no net penalty to them in receiving more federal funds than they contribute.  As long as there is nothing to change this behavior there is every incentive for a practiced ignorance of what is occurring in the Great Lakes region.

        The behavior of senators during the Auto industry hearings I think bears this out.

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