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  •  We are only now beginning the debate (0+ / 0-)

    so I expect the plan to get better.  By better I mean larger and acting more quickly than the current plan.

    Obama's team didn't come out and say "Our plan sucks".  What they did in their paper was lay out the plan and compare it to not doing anything.  It is better than doing nothing, but not everyone will be happy with a economic trajectory that is only slighly better than doing nothing at all.  The inevitable conclusion from reading the plan would be "We need to do much, much more"  Thats what Krugman and Yglesias both said, and that is what I say too.

    I am repeating myself, and thats ok.

    by mickslam on Sun Jan 11, 2009 at 10:57:27 AM PST

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    •  Agreed. And the best part of it... (1+ / 0-)
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      is we aren't debating whether 800 billion dollars is too much with Republicans, which would have changed the number downward, but we are discussing whether or not 800 billion dollars is enough.  By doing this we are changing the arguement of the American people.  

      Whether Obama is doing this on purpose or not, he is creating a situation where by the time we get to an agreeable number, it is going to be more than what we started started with.

      That way if the Republicans raise a ruckus, Obama can just say, "Hey, I gave you guys tax cuts and let you in on the decision making, but right now the public and other Democrats have agreed to make it a bigger number so we are going with that."

      At that point it will be easier to paint Republicans as obstructionists because Obama pretty much gave them something they wanted at the cost of being criticized by his own party. It will be harder to argue the number down at that point.

      It is pretty nice actually. lol

      •  This is not just a matter of political (0+ / 0-)

        ideology. What is done will have practical consequences. Some of those consequences could turn out to be different from what is intended. A drastic increase in public debt carries definite risks.

      •  I've learned to respect (0+ / 0-)

        Obama's tactics.  I do not always see how it play out until much later, but he has proven to be a master of tactics.

        He is like the republicans have been for 30 years, but way better.  He is doing it without the republican noise machine, and without the backing of the press.  I am just astonished at his ability to get people behind his plans.  That said, Richard Lyons comments are basically "it needs to work to work" and make me nervous...

        I am repeating myself, and thats ok.

        by mickslam on Sun Jan 11, 2009 at 11:17:30 AM PST

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