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  •  It is interesting that this is being confirmed (6+ / 0-)

    at this point in bushies administration.  I am led to wonder if people are coming forward now because they think there is a remote chance, versus no chance, of holding the key players responsible?

    You have the boob, Schloz, at the DOJ being outed for misconduct and perjury... It just doesn't seem to be stopping.  

    Its like the coal ash sludge.  Once the leak started the dam collasped and spewed its toxic waste.  The bush administraion is the coal ash sludge, dirty, toxic, damaging and will take years to clean up while making all of us less safe.

    "Handle every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

    by winter outhouse on Tue Jan 13, 2009 at 11:17:41 PM PST

    •  Or... (5+ / 0-)

      Perhaps it's being laid at the feet of Obama as a provocative challenge. Like "Yeah, we tortured. What are you gonna do about it, punk?".

      Considering the way that he was snubbed with Blair House, I wouldn't put it past them to send him all sorts of messages, substantive and trivial, to watch what he does.

      The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)

      by kovie on Tue Jan 13, 2009 at 11:42:04 PM PST

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      •  The messages to Obama... (4+ / 0-)

          are coming from the CIA. They are warning him and his administration to stay away from further investigations of them in relationship to renditions and torture.
          Leon Panetta needs to be a very skilled administrator. There has been a false tension between the CIA and Bush/Cheney. In truth, they used the CIA in going into Iraq and torturing. They would never go after the CIA. With Holder and Obama, the CIA is unsure.
          Panetta needs to immediately obtain a full and complete picture of all secret ops programs currently going forward and on the planner. Obama and Panetta need to make some tough decisions quickly because Cheney announced last week that some are rolling forward. Cheney may be setting Obama up with his own Bay of Pigs.
          In the last 60 years, the Bay of Pigs had the greatest influence on American politics and how our Presidents react to CIA intervention than any other single act. The hands of Nixon, Bush 41, Allen Dulles, LBJ and many corporate friends like Don Kendell from Pepsi are all over Cuba. Why Pepsi? Cheap sugar for the expansion of their product world wide. Oil, sugar, tourism were all a part of the Bay of Pigs.

        •  We were founded by a bunch of molasses pirates (0+ / 0-)

          I look forward to Mr. Panetta restoring the agency that several family members have worked for early in their careers. DOD has taken over too much of the intelligence mission of this government. If War is a Racket then of course the MIC would want to go into the battlefield with eyes wide open.

          But good foreign policy keeps us out of armed conflict IMHO, and that is the function of intelligence: arming the diplomats at the table with the maximum numbers of arrows in their quiver. The bad guys have always been out there, but if I wanted to live in a country that is in a perpetual state of war, with all the implications toward despotism, count me a out. I may never enlist in the armed services, but I am willing to live with the possibility of dying to not have a government where the king can turn his awesome power on the peasants while the drunk nobles look on the scene.

          Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices--François-Marie Arouet

          by CA Berkeley WV on Wed Jan 14, 2009 at 12:23:56 PM PST

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    •  I think it is because Bush and Cheney (1+ / 0-)
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      winter outhouse

      have been very petulant in the last few days and weeks, and people who know otherwise are sick of their lies and self-serving distortions.

      Also, as Bush's days in power are numbered, fears of retaliation are diminishing.

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