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  •  Interesting? (20+ / 0-)

    Try amazing.
     
    Fein has been discussing this for years. He has expressed that it is a matter of the principle of law over the ideologies of a political party. IIRC, he has mentioned the difference in the magnitude of the lawlessness of the Bush cabal versus the pettiness of the actions of GOP vs Clinton.

    A man who chooses not to read, is just as ignorant as the man who cannot read. Mark Twain

    by TexDem on Tue Jan 20, 2009 at 08:05:23 AM PST

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    •  This has nothing to do with elected officials' (1+ / 0-)
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      ideologies.  But I think it does have a lot to do with the ideology of the true blue and the true red.  And by true red I don't mean ignorant wingnuts who eat progpoganda for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

      People on both sides of that color divide love the Constitution and are angered by any threat to it.

      It may well be that the two sides view what rises to the level of an insult to the Constitution differently.  But I think there is persuasive evidence in this case that can win true red-conservatives over to demanding a restoration of the rule of law.  They don't want..."a climate of lawlessness that moved from national security to the domestic arena..." any more than true blues do.

      Just voting Republican is not evidence that a person does not hold the values of the Constitution deeply.

      "The time for justice is always right now!" - Samantha Booke, Wiley College debate team, 1935

      by Edgewater on Tue Jan 20, 2009 at 03:55:07 PM PST

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      •  Like knocking down strawmen? (0+ / 0-)

        I didn't make that argument. Your reading it that way speaks to your thinking rather than mine.
         
        Of course the actions of the Bush cabal do not represent all members of the Republican Party, except as to how they continue to support his actions in light of the evidence of his criminality.
         
        However, today we hear the Senate Republicans are holding up the Eric Holder confirmation because they are afraid he may prosecute those who tortured detainees/captives/prisoners, because they thought they had cover of a legal opinion from the Bush administration. If the Republicans are for the rule of law, let the DOJ under Holder investigate. If they are found guilty so be it. If they are found not guilty, so be it. But to use the argument that they did it under the theory that the administration told them it was okay is flimsy. It didn't work at Nuremberg, neither should it work now.
         
        Also, the quote:
        "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their Party."
        was written by a Republican, for the Republican Party. They have consistently shown a propensity for party over country.

        Even Barry Goldwater's march to the White House to request the resignation of Nixon was to protect the party. If he had been more concerned about the rule of law and the Constitution he would have let him be impeached as an example to all future generations that criminal conduct would not be tolerated, not matter which party.

        A man who chooses not to read, is just as ignorant as the man who cannot read. Mark Twain

        by TexDem on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:54:42 PM PST

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