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  •  Here's the problem with using the Army Manual (11+ / 0-)

    as the allowable techniques: Appendix M. Among other things it allows sleep deprivation and sensory deprivation. I'm not sure if the President knows that or not. It needs to be removed.

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    •  You can be guaranteed the President knows about (4+ / 0-)

      Appendix M. It has been the subject of much heated debate. We'll be watching very closely.

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      by jayden on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:07:19 AM PST

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    •  Yes, the 'techniques' in Appendix M (7+ / 0-)

      add up to the CIA's 'no-touch' torture, as described in the KUBARK manual.

      Detainee Tortured, Says U.S. Official
      Trial Overseer Cites 'Abusive' Methods Against 9/11 Suspect
      By Bob Woodward, Washington Post Staff Writer, Wednesday, January 14, 2009; A01

      The top Bush administration official in charge of deciding whether to bring Guantanamo Bay detainees to trial has concluded that the U.S. military tortured a Saudi national who allegedly planned to participate in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, interrogating him with techniques that included sustained isolation, sleep deprivation, nudity and prolonged exposure to cold, leaving him in a "life-threatening condition."

      "We tortured [Mohammed al-]Qahtani," said Susan J. Crawford, in her first interview since being named convening authority of military commissions by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates in February 2007. "His treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why I did not refer the case" for prosecution.
      ........
      Crawford, 61, said the combination of the interrogation techniques, their duration and the impact on Qahtani's health led to her conclusion. "The techniques they used were all authorized, but the manner in which they applied them was overly aggressive and too persistent. . . . You think of torture, you think of some horrendous physical act done to an individual. This was not any one particular act; this was just a combination of things that had a medical impact on him, that hurt his health. It was abusive and uncalled for. And coercive. Clearly coercive. It was that medical impact that pushed me over the edge" to call it torture, she said.

      Note that waterboarding is not what Judge Crawford is referring to when she says the Guantanamo prisoners were tortured. She describes the CIA's and Appendix M techniques as torture.

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