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  •  this is going to be unpopular here (0+ / 0-)

    but a 1000 dollar check is not going to help the people who really sick or need help the most. the stimulus money will go toward paying back bills and credit cards. a tax break won't do it, just won't.

    •  It's not going to be a check -- that's just it. (1+ / 0-)
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      Joy Busey

      It's going to be a payroll tax cut -- you get about $20 a week more in your check.

      If you don't get a payroll check, you aren't getting a stimulus.

      They aren't just going to mail out checks this time.

      The unemployed and self-employed are screwed again.

      "It always seems impossible until it's done." - Nelson Mandela

      by Brooke In Seattle on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 10:29:05 AM PST

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      •  self-employed... (0+ / 0-)

        The unemployed and self-employed are screwed again.

        Wouldn't the self employed see this with a reduction in the self employment tax they pay in their quarterly payments?

      •  Screwed? (0+ / 0-)

        The unemployed and self-employed are screwed again.

        The self-employed business owners get plenty of tax breaks.  I am employed in the traditonal sense, in a small business, and thus pay tax on virtually every dollar I earn (less mortgage interest and charity).  Many of my family are self-employed and write off pretty much everything - meals out, trips to Sam's Club, vacations, casual labor (any payment to anyone under $600), fuel, office supplies and equipment (TVs, computers, you name it), parties ("entertainment, sales"), vehicles, etc., etc., etc.

        The "burden" of the small business owner is, in many ways, exaggerated on the tax side.  There are burdens, yes, but myriad exemptions and loopholes.  

        If my family and all small business owners paid taxes on all their actual income, sans tax-evasion/cheating loopholes, like I do, we would have a much more wealthy treasury.

        Just because it is legitimate taxation doesn't mean you are getting screwed.  Think of those with only totally taxable W-2 income.  We are supporting the tax breaks for everyone else.  There really is no balance or fairness, which is why we are where we are.

        The unemployed are an entirely different animal and not to be lumped in with the self-employed business owner.  The 1099 employee - also a different animal.

        "When people show you who they really are, believe them." - Maya Angelou

        by Pennsylvanian on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 09:12:03 PM PST

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    •  listen to obama (1+ / 0-)
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      It took bush and cronies 8 years to create this disaster. Obama has said himself before the election that this will take 2-4 years to turn around.

      The stimulus package is NOT the health reform package. He's only been in office 3 days.

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