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  •  If we adopt the Christian world view (11+ / 0-)

    (and I do, with some free thinking stuff added in)

    It seems a rather basic premise that our salvation requires that Jesus (as a human being) suffer grievous torture and a cruel death. That said, our salvation also requires that we imitate Jesus and be willing to face our own Good Friday (perhaps in different degrees) so that we may come to our own Easter.

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    A variation on the story -- what if each citizen could "serve" a year (or a lifetime) in that dungeon and achieve the same result for the community?

    Who might choose to enter the torture room?

    "Seeing our planet as a whole, enables one to see our planet as a whole" - Tad Daley

    by Bill White on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 05:29:26 PM PST

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    •  What do you think volunteering for Iraq is? (4+ / 0-)
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      Unfortunately, the results are not necessarily as described in the user manual.

      "It's the planet, stupid."

      by FishOutofWater on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 05:59:56 PM PST

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    •  Jesus did choose to do so of free will. So, (10+ / 0-)

      is it to walk away from Omelas, or is it to walk to the center of Omelas and be there with the child?

      "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they were amazed at Him. Mark 12:17

      by bkamr on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 06:34:36 PM PST

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    •  Three thoughts. (3+ / 0-)
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      That said, our salvation also requires that we imitate Jesus and be willing to face our own Good Friday (perhaps in different degrees) so that we may come to our own Easter.

      You have hit upon the difference between the Religious Right and what used to be the Christian mainstream.  From the viewpoint of Christianity starting from St. Paul going through Desmond Tutu and every Christian whose presence is a blessing to humanity, that requirement is not freethinking but the strictest orthodoxy.  

      A variation on the story -- what if each citizen could "serve" a year (or a lifetime) in that dungeon and achieve the same result for the community?

      The same result would not be achieved without extinguishing the concept of gratitude and perfection in treating PTSD that is as yet unknown.  The person who underwent the torture would, after his term, be recognized by all as one who made the sacrifice.  He and his brothers and sisters in the ordeal would share an experience that none others have endured.  The imprint of the torture would make him flinch, duck, cry or rage in ways that would mark him as strange and "other".  Introducing "the other" into such a society would probably be deadlier than re-introducing smallpox.  

      Finally, extend the compass of creatures who can suffer.  To the Catholic right, Omelas' torture reserved for the unborn who are aborted.  To animal-rights advocates, the intense suffering of animals submitted to painful experimentation, slaughter and the horrific operations of industrial farming is the torture.  Worse, is there a calculus that relates the suffering of humans to that of animals (or even plants)?

      2009: Year of the Donkey. Let's not screw it up.

      by Yamaneko2 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 07:00:21 PM PST

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