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  •  But aren't you glad (1+ / 0-)
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    fcvaguy

    she converted, so to speak, this way rather than that way?  Just sayin'.

    •  Do you really believe it? (1+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Martha

      I don't know you, but most people I know came around to supporting gay rights over several years, not overnight.

      •  You mean, one can't just take two pills (2+ / 0-)
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        fcvaguy, Geekesque

        and feel different in the morning?  Listen, I agree with you completely, but if she's going to "evolve," I'd much rather have her evolve in the direction she did.  It also says something about where she perceives the political capital is--and that says something positive about us, not about her.

        Also, in fairness to her, it's not like she was a homophobe who suddenly had a divine conversion.  She was already for civil unions and voted for ENDA.  

      •  She didn't oppose gay rights before Paterson (1+ / 0-)
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        Aunt Martha

        picked her.  Do your homework.

        "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

        by Geekesque on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 03:51:36 PM PST

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        •  Dude, I've done my homework (1+ / 0-)
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          Aunt Martha

          You clearly haven't. She was vocally opposed to marriage equality. She REFUSED to cosponsor repeal of DADT.

          Right now, you get a big "F" on your homework.

          •  Uh huh. By your definition, (1) supporting (0+ / 0-)

            full legal equality and civil unions in all 50 states with an ultimate goal of full marriage equality;

            1.  Voting for expanding hate crimes to include GLBT victims;
            1. Co-sponsoring ENDA; but
            1.  Not co-sponsoring a bill ending DADT

            means she opposed GLBT rights.  

            Funny how the pro-GLBT lobbying groups in both NY and DC disagree with your cartoonish distortion.

            "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

            by Geekesque on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 09:13:31 PM PST

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