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  •  Hell, we owe on our 1040 for the first time EVAH! (5+ / 0-)

    Even when he could not get another tax cut for the rich, he screwed the working stiff again.

    Little did we know, the with-holding rate, not the tax rate, changed way back. The comptroller at work could not remember this without restoring a couple of backup databases. I know, I know. I should have known. I did not change my W4, no dependent status change, same income and 401K contribution.

    We. Owe. Two. Weeks Pay.

    We were usually about break even, or get a week or two extra $ the other way. Just as I was getting my Aloha grove on. Another reason I can use to be a Bush hater.

    Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices--François-Marie Arouet

    by CA Berkeley WV on Sat Jan 31, 2009 at 10:09:13 PM PST

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    •  OK, this is thread hi-jacking but I'm pissed (2+ / 0-)
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      In his second paragraph, Rich writes:

      Unemployment is up in all 50 states, with layoffs at both high-tech companies (Microsoft) and low (Caterpillar).

      Anyone who thinks Caterpillar is "low tech" has got their head so far up their ass they need to use toilet paper when their nose itches. Rich, and anyone who read that who didn't feel at least a twinge of annoyance knows nothing, NOTHING, about real economics. No f@%king wonder our country is in as deep shit as it is.

      Damn it, people, if you think Caterpillar is "low tech" start concentrating on learning about manufacturing and economics. Because you're part of the problem. You simply don't know enough to competently judge economic policies. You simply don't know enough about how the real world works. Your ignorance let Wall Street loot the industrial base for three decades now, and see where it's got you.

      OK, rant over.

      A conservative is a scab for the oligarchy.

      by NBBooks on Sat Jan 31, 2009 at 10:29:44 PM PST

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      •  Steel construction here (4+ / 0-)

        It pisses me off we don't make anything any more. I remember coming into work in 1983 to get an order into Bethlehem for a rolling, and was snowed in (38 inches) at work for three days.

        Not sleds, not washers, not televisions, not bicycles, not jeans for the blue collar worker. Nada. We won't survive as empire based on a service economy where others peel our grapes.

        Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices--François-Marie Arouet

        by CA Berkeley WV on Sat Jan 31, 2009 at 11:06:48 PM PST

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        •  Now it seems we import every basic product (1+ / 0-)
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          that once was produced and used for infrastructure in this country.  The state of California--when it finds the money--can't even schedule bridge construction unless it can secure large quantities of cement and steel from overseas.

          For every difficult question, there is an answer that is simple, easily understood and wrong.--H.L. Mencken

          by The Totalizer on Sun Feb 01, 2009 at 02:25:06 AM PST

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      •  Rich said that both were high-tech companies (0+ / 0-)

        Caterpillar is lower tech because it is machinery mixed with some high tech.

        Caterpillar should do well in countries that are building and growing, whether it is tech or machinery.

        Why would you blame the average person when the way our 401ks are set up, there is not a lot of choices?  The money disappears down a dark hole called a mutual fund with a mix of stocks.

        Now that you have supposedly 'proven your superiority' by blaming the victim maybe you should rethink how it really was for most investors.

        We put in for the match, doubling our money.  Charts showed that by retirement time we would have made big bucks.

        Wall Street crapped in their own drinking water and ripped off the investors with their careless ways.  So blame the victim, NB.

      •  Was wondering about the Caterpiller (0+ / 0-)

        characterization.  Obviously, not low-tech.  Rich needs to clean the stinky stuff off his shoe.

        I love him anyway.

        What's low-tech?  Shingle-splitting?

        The deaf shall have music, the blind have new eyes. The standards of death taken down by surprise. (Bob Franke)

        by rsmpdx on Sun Feb 01, 2009 at 10:29:43 AM PST

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