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  •  Agree we won't get our rights in our lifetimes (none)
    if we continue to put up and shut up the way we have.

    Case in point: the gay people on dKos who Stephani "Zell Miller, Class of 2020" Herseth. And we wonder why people vote our domestic partnership benefits away even in blue fucking states like Oregon!

    The only way we're going to be heard is if we take our cues from the Civil Rights Movement. I'm talking sit-ins, marches, boycotts, Freedom Riders and more, but most of all, never allowing ourselves to be pushed to the back of the Democratic bus ever again.

    •  _supported_ Stephani ... (none)
      The word got so stuck in my craw I guess I couldn't even type it out.
    •  Disgusted (none)
      We knew gay marriage (sex) was going to be one of the defining wedge issues this year, and we still didn't come up with an effective defense.  (The same can be said for the Swift Boat Asses, too.)

      Basically, we need to start posting the clip from Bush's interview with Charlie Gibson where Bush says that he supports civil unions.  

      http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/26/politics/campaign/26gay.html?oref=login

      We need to tell every single "moral" advocate that Bush supports civil unions.  We need to prove to the "Moral Majority" that the Republicans are playing them like a fiddle from hell.  

      "Keep watch over absent meaning." --Maurice Blanchot

      by Fisher on Wed Nov 03, 2004 at 04:30:00 PM PST

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      •  Huh...? (none)
        So you think we should try to win the bigots over by showing them that Bush isn't the bigot they hope he is?

        cheers, Mitch Gore

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        by Lestatdelc on Wed Nov 03, 2004 at 05:05:01 PM PST

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        •  Not Exactly (none)
          To address this issue of the SCMM (So Called Moral Majority), we need to:

          • Undercut Bush's support by showing that he isn't as hardcore as his followers believe. (which this quote from Gibson helps prove)

          • Separate the moderate Christians from the fervent neo-Dominionists.  

          "Keep watch over absent meaning." --Maurice Blanchot

          by Fisher on Wed Nov 03, 2004 at 07:34:42 PM PST

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          •  They see the GOP (none)
            as the lesser of two evils. You will never undercut his base. Any of the right wing bases.

            We win elections only by becoming democrats again. No "tactic" no "strategy" will do that. It's something the wouldbe machiavellis in washington (and here) have forgotten in their quest for power and wealth through office.

            We win by becoming democrats again. Not by finding new ways to sell out the base.

            "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." - pRresident Bush | My other Drunken ravings

            by cdreid on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 04:04:07 AM PST

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