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  •  Agree (9+ / 0-)

    We not go from the absolute low point to a high, or perhaps, even acceptable level, merely because a calender day passes and a new CIC steps on board.

    If BushCo's actions are allowed to stand the Obama administration has tacitly agreed that they were right.

    A new CIC who tacitly agrees and even goes on to do things like this:

    Obama has informed the CIA that certain extra-ordinatry renditions can still take place.

    is simply a new monarch who chooses to exert his power to flaunt our Constitution more subtly than the old one did.

    If this is what the Obama administration chooses then the Constitution is no longer in force because if our leaders refuse the contract there is no reason the people should follow it.

    The rule of law is for everyone or it is for no one.

    "The time for justice is always right now!" - Samantha Booke, Wiley College debate team, 1935

    by Edgewater on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 04:29:20 PM PST

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      Obama has informed the CIA that certain extra-ordinatry renditions can still take place.

      Perhaps I missed it. But I don't remember anyone reporting any such thing.

      •  This was reported a few days ago Garret. I (2+ / 0-)
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        believe in HuffPo.  I'll look around and see if I can find the link for you.

        The article did add that these extra-ordinary renditions would be time bound or short term for special cases, and would also require the third party countries receiving such "rendees" to agree to certain limits.

        The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

        by HoundDog on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 10:55:56 PM PST

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        •  Hi Garrett, Here's a link to the most recent (2+ / 0-)
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          report on the UK case which seems to be the center of action.

          The Independent has a much longer article today which I haven't read.  I think the article I read last week was either in the Independent or Telegraph.

          Link to ACLU article in Indiebay.

          Obama Endorses Bush Secrecy On Torture And Rendition
          by via ACLU

           Wednesday, February 4, 2009 : NEW YORK – After the British High Court ruled that evidence of British resident Binyam Mohamed's extraordinary rendition and torture at Guantánamo Bay must remain secret because of threats made by the Bush administration to halt intelligence sharing, the Obama administration told the BBC today in a written statement: "The United States thanks the UK government for its continued commitment to protect sensitive national security information and preserve the long-standing intelligence sharing relationship that enables both countries to protect their citizens."

          <div class="article">The following can be attributed to Anthony D. Romero, Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union:

          "Hope is flickering. The Obama administration's position is not change. It is more of the same. This represents a complete turn-around and undermining of the restoration of the rule of law. The new American administration shouldn't be complicit in hiding the abuses of its predecessors."

          When the ACLU learned of the High Court's ruling earlier today, it sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urging her to clarify the Obama administration's position relating to the Mohamed case and calling on her to reject the Bush administration's policy of using false claims of national security to avoid judicial review of controversial programs.

          The ACLU's letter to Secretary of State Clinton is available online at:

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          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 11:33:01 PM PST

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