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    Clem Yeobright

    Obtained absentee ballots by non-legal means? Are you serious? What would be the point?

    Every voter has to be a real person. They get the one registration, and they only get to vote once. The ABs are checked against the voter rolls to see that this is so.

    If anyone has an absentee ballot, they almost surely applied for it. I suppose in the imaginary world where all things are possible, someone could have stolen a ballot, or even printed a forgery. But, so what if the did? They still get just the one vote. It's a silly hypothetical, to begin with -- and, even if true, would not enable fraud. You'd have to invent a voter and a registration to commit fraud -- to vote twice. This wouldn't make either scenario more likely.

    If there is no application to natch up with an absentee ballot, it's because the office lost it. Other possibilities are not only unlikely, they're silly.

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    by FischFry on Sun Feb 15, 2009 at 06:42:28 AM PST

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    •  My point is the ECC's recurrent theme (2+ / 0-)
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      wrt the laws being written -- including all the various hoops of registration, forms, witnesses, etc. -- to minimize the possibility of fraud.

      Yes, the hypotheticals of someone coming across a random AB and submitting it are a stretch.  But the whole point of having an app and matching it to the AB is grounded in the laws that the ECC repeatedly referred to in the order.

      It's their emphasis I'm pointing to.  I was a bit surprised by how often they brought it up.


      •  Fraud (1+ / 0-)
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        Clem Yeobright

        I was also surprised at many of the decisions were based on the seeming bias against any possibility of fraud.  So much so that it seemed a bit of a stretch in some cases, but they kept saying how the legislature preferred in person balloting and how registration was easy, but absentee voting was hard,etc.
        We will soon know how they will finally come down (with a hammer?) because the outstanding rulings - application lost or signature on wrong line or no witness address all seem either picky or mostly official error as in lost applications. So if they really want to include more ballots, they will not rule these out.  But if their concern for possible fraud is overwhelming, these ballots are OUT.

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