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  •  not your fault? (6+ / 0-)

    awww, are you feeling put upon?  

    Yes, there are crimes illegal immigrants must commit it their day to day lives.  But you know those aren't the crimes the Know-Nothings' outrage over, it's violent crimes or drunk driving or some other crime that directly affects a potential poster-child.  

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    I don't want to create two groups, the two groups are already there.  I want a reasonable, humane plan for dealing with them.  And I will resist any politician who runs on anti-immigration bullshit.  Not anti-illegal immigration, but anti-immigration.

    Come we go chant down babylon one more time

    by gooners on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 07:50:32 AM PST

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    •  But You Just Wrote (1+ / 0-)
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      Yes, there are crimes illegal immigrants must commit it their day to day lives

      That they didn't commit crimes -- you should really make up your mind.

      <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

      by superscalar on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 07:53:32 AM PST

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      •  crimes outside of the ones related to their (2+ / 0-)
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        illegal status.

        Come we go chant down babylon one more time

        by gooners on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 07:55:47 AM PST

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        •  Oh, I Get It (0+ / 0-)

          'Crimes related to their illegal status' don't count.

          You should really add these qualifiers next time instead of assuming that everybody else just automatically knows what you are talking about.

          <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

          by superscalar on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 08:04:51 AM PST

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          •  In the context of Crashing Vor's comment (4+ / 0-)

            that you were replying to, that makes sense.  Follow the link in that comment and you will see it is all about violent crime.

            Come we go chant down babylon one more time

            by gooners on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 08:11:40 AM PST

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            •  Geraldo Rivera (0+ / 0-)

              [Geraldo] Rivera also claimed that "illegal aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens do."

              Says something stupid ... who'da thunk it?

              <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

              by superscalar on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 08:17:06 AM PST

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              •  nope (5+ / 0-)

                It is

                professor Robert J. Sampson, chairman of the sociology department at Harvard University

                who says

                illegal aliens...are disproportionately less likely to be involved in many acts of deviance, crime, drunk driving, any number of things that sort of imperil our well-being.

                And must realize that when the crime argument is used against immigrants legal and illegal, it is violent crime that matters.  Ask Lou Barletta.

                Come we go chant down babylon one more time

                by gooners on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 08:24:39 AM PST

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                •  And EXACTLY How Would (0+ / 0-)

                  illegal aliens...are disproportionately less likely to be involved in many acts of deviance, crime, drunk driving, any number of things that sort of imperil our well-being

                  Robert J. Sampson know this?

                  In other words, if I as an illegal immigrant get stopped for drunk driving and I hand you a fake drivers license, how do you then know I am an illegal immigrant?

                  There are zero studies in the U.S. which quantify or qualify the illegal immigrant population ... zero.

                  <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

                  by superscalar on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 08:32:20 AM PST

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                  •  you'd have to read his study... (3+ / 0-)
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                    or you could just assume it's wrong, and go on believing in the horrors of the Mexican invasion.  I'm guessing that's what you're going to do anyway.

                    Come we go chant down babylon one more time

                    by gooners on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 08:52:24 AM PST

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                    •  So I Need To Read The Study (0+ / 0-)

                      To dispute the talking points which you spit out, but you don't need to read the study to both believe it and then go on to spit out the talking points ... I see.

                      I'm guessing that's what you're going to do anyway.

                      Yeah, look at how far your 'guessing' has gotten you so far?

                      <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

                      by superscalar on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 08:59:40 AM PST

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                      •  I guessed this thread would quickly become stupid (4+ / 0-)

                        and I was right on that.  If there are "zero studies in the U.S. which quantify or qualify the illegal immigrant population", than I guess there is no point debating, because neither of us have any basis for our points.  

                        Come we go chant down babylon one more time

                        by gooners on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 09:06:24 AM PST

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                        •  Virtually All Of The Studies (0+ / 0-)

                          Quantifying or qualifying the illegal immigrant population in the U.S. use the 2000 Census data and the Current Population Survey, neither of which ask the legal status of the person being surveyed.

                          <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

                          by superscalar on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 09:24:12 AM PST

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