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  •  Right on (none)
    Lets make Howard Dean chairman of the DNC. So long Terry!

    Dean is a great speaker, socially liberal, and lets face it - our John McCain.

    Put him in a position of power and influence. Make Deaniacs feel good. Get people excited about the process and about winning without selling out the basic tenets of our democracy.

    Call: 202-863-8000

    •  Bad McCain analogy (none)
      He's not our John McCain.

      John McCain (before this year) was more liked by Independents and Democrats than he was by his own party.

      You can't say that about Howard Dean, I don't think.

      He might make a good DNC chair, though, although HE may not be effective at organizing (his campaign was, but at first he didn't "get" it, if you read the story in Trippi's book --- once he "got" it, he worked it, but he didn't create it).

      Ally

      "I know there's a saying about not changing horses midstream, but look, this horse has no legs, and it has no friends." -- Vanessa Kerry

      by ally on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 11:40:57 AM PST

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      •  Chief Job of DNC Chairman Now (none)
        is to have an effective presence on TV talk shows.  The organizing and fund-raising can be delegated.

        Dean (unlike McAuliffe) has a highly effective TV presence.

        •  True (none)
          Oh, I agree. I just didn't like the analogy and wanted to mention that the entire Dean movement is not all due to Howard Dean. I do think it's an idea with some merit, though I'm not as sure as some that Dean is the ONLY viable choice for such a job as he never really inspired me until I read Trippi's book (the campaign inspired me, but not the man). I do think he's interesting, and much better than McAuliffe.

          Ally

          "I know there's a saying about not changing horses midstream, but look, this horse has no legs, and it has no friends." -- Vanessa Kerry

          by ally on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 01:33:21 PM PST

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    •  Two chairs? (none)
      There are a bunch of people here who say Dean might be too angry and immoderate to lead the Democratic Party. I don't know if that's true, but it might be worth considering the idea that we could have two Democratic party chairmen. One would be the public face of the Party, the guy who gets out there, does the talking, raises the funds, and generally puts a good public face on the Party.

      Call the other chair the mastermind, if you will. He's the guy who sets out the strategy, puts the programs in place, and coordinates the entire cat-herding exercise. If you want an analogy to baseball, one of these men is the general manager of the club and the other is the manager of the team.

      Guess which job I think Dean would be best for.

      If this be treason, make the most of it.

      by Our Man In Redmond on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 11:58:44 AM PST

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      •  Outspoken person on TV (none)
        Honestly, who would you rather watch on TV - Pat Buchanan or Marc Racicot?

        My point is the we need someone who grabs attention, speaks his mind, is unashamed of his views - people respect that

        Howard Dean would make a great DNC chairman - if he is willing to move to DC (his wife and family are not going to move - his wife made it sound she would reluctantly do it as 1st lady)

        •  Who would I rather watch on TV? (none)
          Whoever can get Democrats elected.

          The political guy can be an eminence gris everyone knows about but nobody sees for all I care. Just as long as he knows what needs to get done, and how to do it, and and who's going to do it, and how much to spend and where.

          If this be treason, make the most of it.

          by Our Man In Redmond on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 01:38:59 PM PST

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      •  That used to be our structure... (none)
        I was at the DNC in the summer of 1998 and we had two chairs--the General Chair (at the time, Steve Grossman) was in charge of the day-to-day administration and fundraising activities of the DNC.  The National Chair (at the time, Gov. Roy Romer of CO) was the media person who would do interviews, soundbites, etc.  The division, I think, makes a lot of sense.  Dean is a solid choice for the second position, which was traditionally filled by a politico, but would be a disaster in the administrative side.  McAulliffe has been the obverse--a disaster on the media side, but pretty damn solid on the administrative and fundraising side.  Splitting could certainly work, though.

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