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  •  We are gonna have to agree to disagree (15+ / 0-)

    I would expect a Democrat to step up and help a Republican (or another Democrat) out.  I understand about voting your conscience/constituency, but there also needs to be some civility and empathy amongst the members of Congress.  To me, that is real bipartisanship.  Having respect for the other side and being willing to truly listen to their ideas and proposals, even if you disagree with them and/or decide not to implement them.

    •  Therein lies trouble with the word "bipartisan" (4+ / 0-)

      There doesn't seem to be any good definition for it.  To me, it's a non-word.  As a matter of human decency people should be civil to each other.  That's not bipartisan, that's justice.  However, there is no need for someone who does not believe in X legislation to vote for X legislation in the spirit of comity.  I don't want the two parties to agree on everything or even on important things; I want them to have differences and debate and out of that debate will come ideas.  Let's face it, there really weren't a lot of ideas exchanged in this bill (there isn't even an organizing principle around which to even have a coherent debate) because there are fundamentally different approaches on how to handle the economic situation.  That's not a bad thing.  It was convenient for both the Dems and GOP to have stark differences on this one; they both got mileage out of it. I really don't think the GOP was grandstanding on this one, I think they had a fundamental disagreement on the approach to the bill.  And good for them if they were voting their conscience.  But back to the word, "bipartisan," that I wish could be thrown out of the political lexicon.  I just don't think it means anything; or at least, people will not be able to agree on what it means.

      But as you rightly state, and in a spirit of civility, we are going to need to agree to disagree.  :-)

      •  It used to mean (1+ / 0-)
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        a group consisting of members from two (and only 2) parties.
        It was meant to sound high-minded and fair. "Members of both parties agree ...".
        It sometimes meant "blur the lines and spread the blame around" especially when paired with Commission.

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