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  •  so you think hoover was doing the right thing?? (0+ / 0-)

    i thought we had all agreed that what they did back then was wrong. amazing to see someone in 2009 citing him as a valid precedent on which to build. just amazing.

    •  No .... (0+ / 0-)

      Hoover was doing the wrong thing then for the wrong reasons.  If that could prevail, then surely we can do the right thing for the right reasons this time with the motivation being to investigate all threats against a sitting POTUS.

      The person who has lost the ability to trust based on the actions of the party no longer trusted is not the one who has to do the work for restoration.

      by emsprater on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 03:24:37 PM PST

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      •  let me try to unwrap that (0+ / 0-)

        so... hoover was doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons... thus, that provides justification for doing what YOU think is the right thing, which is to investigate a freaking cartoonist as a threat on the most well protected person on earth, which is think is ridculous.

        essentially, you want the guy intimidated for saying something you dont like. why not just say that and avoid the mental gymnastics.

        •  So you think this was ... (0+ / 0-)

          just 'the guy' (ie, the cartoonist) who is implicitly involved in the bruhaha.  This 'cartoon' went through editors (one now backpedaling and claiming it was done without her knowledge and approval, see what backlash can accomplish?) and ultimately is the responsibility of the entire Post organization.  Folks 'at the top' allowed this to go forth and therefore apparently endorsed the underlying message.

          The flippant remark about Hoover seems to have you tied in a knot: simply put, he accomplished evil deeds for his own purpose of evil during a time when he was allowed to do so legally, with the blessings of the POTUS.  My point is that if that kind of 'investigation' could have occurred in USA, then surely we can investigate an implied threat to the current POTUS.  And that's not just 'the guy', it's the entire Post.  Our POTUS may well be the 'most well protected person on earth', but that doesn't mean there is no need to remain aware and thoroughly informed of all the possible actions that might be made against him, from whatever sources.  This 'cartoon' was not just meant as political speech, it was meant to incite. It was allowed to be published as a means to incite.

          Stick your head in the sand an yell 'free speech' all you want, but frankly, I want this type of hate speech to be thoroughly investigated every time it rears it's ugly head.

          The person who has lost the ability to trust based on the actions of the party no longer trusted is not the one who has to do the work for restoration.

          by emsprater on Fri Feb 20, 2009 at 07:04:28 AM PST

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