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  •  Opposition to the death penalty (10+ / 0-)

    is opposition to authoritarianism.

    I don't have to look at a list of peer reviewed journal articles to know that someone who opposes the death penalty is less likely on average to vote for a conviction than someone who loves the death penalty.

    To support the death penalty there is an underlying belief in the righteousness of the prosecution (or an underlying love of lynching the innocent and guilty alike).

    Of course, the death penalty exclusion selects biased juries that are more likely to convict.

    "It's the planet, stupid."

    by FishOutofWater on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:13:42 PM PST

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    •  No doubt true. But in my own case ... (7+ / 0-)

      ...I have no qualms about voting to convict someone if the evidence presented persuades me beyond a reasonable doubt that they did the crime.

      "The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." -Flannery O'Connor

      by Meteor Blades on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:18:48 PM PST

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      •  But you are surely not as credulous (3+ / 0-)
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        and trusting of the honesty of the police and prosecutor as many who would support the death penalty.

        The threshold for "beyond a reasonable doubt" differs between jurors.

        "It's the planet, stupid."

        by FishOutofWater on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:28:34 PM PST

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        •  When I was a deputy DA (3+ / 0-)
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          I would not file a case unless I was convinced beyond any doubt of the person's guilt.  And I dismissed a number of cases before trial when evidence arose that cast a doubt on the defendant's guilt.

          I once approved an arrest warrant, and convinced the judge to do so, when, after we had disapproved the initial application, the police officer claimed he had overlooked a key fact that turned mere suspicion into solid proof.  Just before the preliminary hearing I learned this overlooked "fact" did not exist and I dismissed the case.  I suspect the policeman deliberately lied but we couldn't prove it.

          "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

          by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 06:01:23 PM PST

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    •  I don't know how anyone could support (3+ / 0-)
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      the death penalty anymore, with all the evidence we have now of innocent people being convicted. Even if that was your only reason for opposing it, it's enough.

      "There -- it's -- you know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --GWB

      by denise b on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 07:20:20 PM PST

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