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  •  No doubt true. But in my own case ... (7+ / 0-)

    ...I have no qualms about voting to convict someone if the evidence presented persuades me beyond a reasonable doubt that they did the crime.

    "The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." -Flannery O'Connor

    by Meteor Blades on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:18:48 PM PST

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    •  But you are surely not as credulous (3+ / 0-)
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      and trusting of the honesty of the police and prosecutor as many who would support the death penalty.

      The threshold for "beyond a reasonable doubt" differs between jurors.

      "It's the planet, stupid."

      by FishOutofWater on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:28:34 PM PST

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      •  When I was a deputy DA (3+ / 0-)
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        I would not file a case unless I was convinced beyond any doubt of the person's guilt.  And I dismissed a number of cases before trial when evidence arose that cast a doubt on the defendant's guilt.

        I once approved an arrest warrant, and convinced the judge to do so, when, after we had disapproved the initial application, the police officer claimed he had overlooked a key fact that turned mere suspicion into solid proof.  Just before the preliminary hearing I learned this overlooked "fact" did not exist and I dismissed the case.  I suspect the policeman deliberately lied but we couldn't prove it.

        "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

        by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 06:01:23 PM PST

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        •  Good for you (3+ / 0-)
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          but unfortunately there are many cases where "facts" were invented by the police and the DA went ahead. Unfortunately, successful murder trials can help a prosecutor move up in politics. Actual innocence or guilt can become secondary to finding someone guilty for a heinous crime.

          "It's the planet, stupid."

          by FishOutofWater on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 06:13:18 PM PST

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        •  First, not all DAs do what you did (1+ / 0-)
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          and second, what if you were wrong?  I'm sure that the majority of wrongful conviction cases were prosecuted by attorneys who were certain of the guilt of the accused.  

          We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.

          by DParker on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 09:41:17 PM PST

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