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  •  There's not a chance in hell that anyone (1+ / 0-)
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    would select me for a jury. I despise the criminal justice system from top to bottom.
    When the same laws apply equally across the social spectrum I might feel differently.

    "When they ask how I died, tell them: still angry." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:34:47 PM PST

    •  I can understand your reaction, (6+ / 0-)

      however, if everyone who sees the flaws in the system didn't serve, that would leave those who give into their biases -- thus, perpetuating the problem.

      I had an experience that is a good example of how the system works.  I was on a jury for an excessive force case.  My natural bias is that excessive force happens often.  The defendent was a white drug dealer.  His lawyer sucked -- but even so, the jury leaned towards those who automatically respected cops and hate drug dealers.  Even so, we spent two days going through testimony and evidence.   We found excessive force but awarded the defendent only $1.00 because he seriously provoked them and only had a bump on the head.

      Generally speaking, I do believe jurors can set aside their biases -- if not -- they are either persuaded by the level headed jurors or the trial ends in a hung jury.  Yes, there are many instances of corrupt outcomes, hence the appeal system.

      In the matter of the death penalty, however, the jury is already stacked against the defendant -- no matter how honest the members are.

      You'll never have a quiet world till you knock the patriotism out of the human race. - G.B. Shaw, "Misalliance"

      by gchaucer2 on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:45:07 PM PST

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      •  I worry about being called for jury duty... (3+ / 0-)
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        because I vote absentee.

        In the unlikely event that would happen, would I have to show up since I don't live in the US and I'm a citizen of another country?

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        by David Kroning on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:52:31 PM PST

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        •  No, you wouldn't have (2+ / 0-)
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          to show up.  There is a place on the jury summons which allows you to indicate why you can't serve -- one is that you are not in the jurisdiction.  If that isn't signified, there is usually a "other" spot.

          You'll never have a quiet world till you knock the patriotism out of the human race. - G.B. Shaw, "Misalliance"

          by gchaucer2 on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 05:56:39 PM PST

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      •  That is the dilemma that I haved faced for years. (1+ / 0-)
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        dharmafarmer

        Hopefully it will never happen but I do believe that they would disqualify me.
        I wouldn't lie and they wouldn't like my answers.

        "When they ask how I died, tell them: still angry." Richard K. Morgan

        by sceptical observer on Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 06:50:38 PM PST

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