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  •  Why don't we criminalize tobacco and legalize (1+ / 0-)
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    weed then?  Tobacco kills far more people.  I'm with Smiley Sam on this... what about if we only make it legal to EAT marijuana... then would it be OK?  There'd be no lung damage, after all...

    And no, I don't think your laziness argument holds any water, either.  the list of successful people who have smoked is extensive (Bill Gates, Arnold, Bloomberg, Clinton, Obama, etc.)  Certainly you can find alcoholics who are not only unsuccessful, they're violent to boot.

    I understand where you're coming from but fail to see how keeping the drug cartels in business (as medical marijuana-only systems do) serves a  purpose.  The fact of the matter is, millions of smokers are out there and we aren't taxing them and the fact that it's illegal means that VERY unsavory characters run the business and it's completely unregulated.

    I don't think your arguments stand up to scrutiny.  Feel free to disabuse me of my notions.

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    by YoyogiBear on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 08:00:13 AM PST

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    •  It's actually pretty simple. (0+ / 0-)
      1. The major driver of 'drug cartels' is in fact criminalization. If you stop arresting people for possession with intent to sell, you eliminate the huge 'risk premium' that funds the organized crime element involved. Marijuana is such a bulky and relatively low-profit product compared to cocaine or heroin that it's already not very attractive to established criminal enterprises.
      1. I absolutely agree that marijuana is far less socially detrimental than alcohol, as the latter fuels an astonishingly high percentage of violent crime. It also currently causes far fewer pulmonary deaths than tobacco, in part of course simply because it's criminalized so consumption is somewhat constrained. But these are not compelling arguments for legalized sale and widespread consumption. Prohibition was a miserable failure for alcohol, and it would be for tobacco as well. But strenuous efforts to discourage and stigmatize consumption of tobacco are public health imperatives. Until I see overwhelming evidence that regular marijuana smoking is safe, posing no risk to peoples' lungs, I regard advocacy for legalizing marijuana use as irresponsible at best.

      I take care of a number of 'casual' marijuana users with serious obstructive lung disease and no other cause. I pointedly tell them that I have no moral or legalistic issue with their marijuana use at all. My problem is that it's ruining their lungs.

      •  When it's RE-LEGALIZED.... (1+ / 0-)
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        I personally will be growing it and processing it for use in my food, but also making tinctures out of it. There are so many ways to get benefit from cannabis, not everyone who smokes pot now wants to always (and only) smoke it. Sure, I like smoking joints, but when its legal, I'll be using it to get high in different ways. Others will too.

        Peace thru hemp / hemp for life!

        by Boudicia Dark on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 09:05:37 PM PST

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      •  How do you feel about cooking with mj? (1+ / 0-)
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        One way to enjoy without inhaling, and if done right, works well.

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        by sboucher on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 09:21:59 PM PST

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