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  •  You are absolutely right. (10+ / 0-)

    They are not against the Iraq war as much as the execution of the Iraq war.  They were fine with it until it completely went to hell.  And if it had not turned out so badly, we would be calling John McCain Mr. President.

    Can someone please explain to me how there can be a "moderate" position on equality??

    by browneyes on Tue Mar 03, 2009 at 07:24:47 PM PST

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    •  Right. Many buy into the "incompetence" framing. (4+ / 0-)
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      Those who argue this way are content to portray the Bush administration as incompetent rather than evil. In other words, they agree with the neoconservatives' goals and their "hope" for "change" is confined to the expectation that the Obama administration will do a better job of achieving them.

      The Dutch children's chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the children of the world a happy holiday season!

      by lotlizard on Wed Mar 04, 2009 at 01:07:56 AM PST

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      •  Like the "bad intel"... yeah right! (2+ / 0-)
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        As far as Bush and his buddies were concerned, the intel was GREAT. Which is not at all suprising, since it was Bush himself who told them what intel he wanted.

        Nothing "incompetent" about it... they knew EXACTLY what they were doing. So NOOOO benefit of the doubt when it comes time to charge them with their many crimes.

        "Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky

        by ratmach on Wed Mar 04, 2009 at 10:39:52 AM PST

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