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  •  Here Here! I agree Let's have the debate (4.00)
    This is the way to go. Let's have the debate.  People generally agree with Bill clinton on this Abortions should be "legal safe and rare!"

    I am a democrat that is in favor of some restrictions like Inez Tanenbaum of SC who was running or congress.

    Let's back some parental notification with exception or cases of incest or rape. Partial birth ban with exceptions for the health of the mother; should be brought to the floor of the congress and passed immediately.   But watch the GOP does not want to loose their whipping stick. They will not pass sensible abortion laws; Because if that happens then the public support for them will go away.

    Let's push for sensible legal rights for gays and not marriage.

    We have also got to take the values issue to the people.  I know 99% of Americans do not know that Bush and congress passed a law that took away the child credit from people making less than $11000 a year.  The Bush administration has been attacking the poor for 4 years now and we have got to say that this is immoral.

    Many of the poor in the red states do not know how this administration is screwing them. We must be seen as defending the poor not trying to provide handouts to welfare cheats. The poor have no lobby and no 527 or political PAC. And Like Jesse Jackson said years ago the poor are actually work everyday.

    We have to also work to mobilize the poor.  My sister had gone 3 years without a job under this administration and her evangelical church convinced her to vote for Bush because of gay marriage.

    •  It is moral to support fertilty clinics (none)
      Our values are to support fertility clinics for those who want to have children.  

      We should make sure that fertility clinics are not regulated by the Federal Government. We need to support legislation that would ensure that parents, not the government, make the decisions regarding in-vitro fertilization and the use of embryos.

      The women in the Philly suburbs will go for it; Santorum will not.  He's up for re-election.  Bye-bye, Santorum.

    •  Um... (none)
      Either you totally missed the point or I did not understand your post at all.  The idea here is not to compromise but to give them exactly what they want, in spades!  Because they really don't want what they say they want and the choice of supporting it or fighting it is a lose/lose proposition for them.
      •  Must use wedge issues in practical way (none)
        Steve, I got your point--as well as that of everyone else here.  Yes, your idea, as is, is good fun to think about and to blow off a little steam here.  

        But I'm talking about bringing up something in real life in the Senate that will make us look moderate and them like the true radicals that they are.  We can't be the wild-eyed bomb throwers in the Senate.  Just which Democratic Senator is going to introduce a constitutional amendment to ban in-vitro fertilzation?  Never going to happen.  Let Begala take this take-no-prisoners tack in the media--and we can all follow suit as a debating tactic.

        But let's actually craft some votes in Congress to make the radicals declare and the Maine Senators take a stand.  Let's craft our own cultural wedge issues to split Ahnold and Rudy, and their followers, away from the Fundamentalist Republicans.  That's how they won the South; that's how will secure the Northeast (no more RINOs) and Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and Arizona in the West.

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