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  •  a fool's errand (none)
    Why? Because we are talking about fundies here. You think it's enough to ban gay marriage? Nonsense. In every state where these laws passed there will be court challenges on their consitutionality...both in each state and in some cases(if taken up) on the Federal level.

    You can't hope these issues will go away over time or distract them with issues more favorable to us. Things like gay marriage ammendments have to fought for what they are: bullshit wedge issues to divide and distract us, pushed by zealots who will never be satisfied.

    You are wrong to think fundies will be happy with limiting reproductive freedom wrt abortion. If they overturn Roe, the next step will be birth control, or some other wedge. Their whole ethos is THERE ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE A FIGHT(sorry for the caps, don't know how to italicize)and it doesn't even matter to their leaders if they lose because by actually winning it makes their leaders useless.

    •  There may be a way to neutralize the whole (none)
      gay marriage issue.  Civil marriage is basically a contract between two people that has standard terms and conditions.  I am no lawyer, but what's to stop two men or two women who want to commit their lives together from just rolling their own civil contract and agreeing to it, spelling out t's and c's for everything surrounding marriage but doing it civilly?  I realize that gays want (and deserve) full recognition in our society, but by going the court route to force the issue they've set themselves (and us) back ten years.  Wouldn't they get the same commitment and legal rights this way, and present a much more diffuse target in the bargain?

      Wouldn't it be great to have a President who did the right thing as the automatic choice instead of a grudging last resort?

      by DemInTampa on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 07:07:08 PM PST

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