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  •  But I don't WANT God. (none)
    They can have god, the bible-thump, the ignorance, the fear, the bigotry, and tear down all of Enlightenment all they wish. I don't want it.

    But I will NOT cede our moral ground. While they frit and fretter about everyone's private "values", I think we would all do well to be a helluva lot more concerned about the nation's PUBLIC morals: IMMORAL WARS, immoral criminalizations, UNFUNDED EDUCATION (for god's sake), no access to health care...

    They can keep their bibles and golden-plated visions of heaven and pearly gates. I don't need the fear of some afterlife god to know the difference between right and wrong before our eyes right now.

    They can have the fucking bible. I'd rather beat them over the head with the reality before our crying, rage-filled eyes.

    "For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it." -Patrick Henry

    by TX Unmuzzled on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 03:50:26 PM PST

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    •  Sorry, I don't mean to offend you. (none)
      I guess I need to explain myself more clearly--  I don't think you should have God if you don't want it/him/her/whatever.

      I'm not advocating that people start talking about God, but that we take a cue from the Christian Left during the Civil Rights movement.  Expose the hate for what it is and stop the masquerading behind "God and Country".

      End the "traditional values"  bullshit. Slavery was a custom handed down through generations--is anyone interested in celebrating that tradition?

      To me it's just a matter of reframing the argument to those who are religious, but who aren't hateful.  I could care less about those who are hateful pretending to be religious.

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