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  •  Just a quick point here (2+ / 0-)
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    Pesto, CS in AZ

    At my work, the way I have a voice is by working with my direct manager at my annual reviews and on an ongoing basis, doing my job well and being a valuable employee whom they reward accordingly. I do not feel my employers are against me. But I work in a nonprofit human services organization, with a board and upper management who are good people, so that could have something to do with why I don't feel an adversarial relationship with them. I love my job and am quite happy with my compensation and how I'm treated at work, sans union.

    It's a common perception that people who advocate for unions in their workplaces don't like their jobs or their bosses - I'm not saying that you are saying this, but your paragraph kinda got me thinking - but that's not necessarily true.

    I, for one, like doing what I do and I by and large get along with those who supervise me.  But even the best supervisors can make mistakes and the worst can be outright malevolent.  Furthermore, there are issues of how power is distributed in the workplace.  A lot of the decisions about the conditions of my employment aren't made by the people to whom I directly report.  And the people who do make those decisions may do so in a way that affects me adversely.  They may be fine people, but people who do something that needs to be countered by another voice to make sure that people are treated as fairly and justly in the workplace as possible.  My union really helps that.

    Your workplace may work in a healthy manner as it is.  I'm glad for that, and I hope it continues.

    Procrastination: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.

    by Linnaeus on Fri Mar 13, 2009 at 07:28:44 PM PDT

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    •  It does come off that way (0+ / 0-)

      The advocates for EFCA and unions do pretty much all seem to paint the employer as inherently evil and at odds with the workers.

      I tend to view employment more as a mutually beneficial arrangement, with both sides having their own best interests at heart, but both also needing the other in order for either so succeed.

      I understand that things are not always fair and my direct boss would pay me more if she could.

      But what I don't like about union (the idea of it) is that there is no reward for high performance. Everyone gets paid the same, whether they are top notch or lazy as hell. And my husband says that when he used to work under a union (heavy equipment operators, many years ago) they favored seniority over competence in determining who to call first for work. They also could force people to go on strike when they could not afford to be out of work. I don't see unions as an all good or all bad thing. I see pros and cons to both, I suppose.

      Anyway, thank you for the sincere discussion. I appreciate it.

      •  Pay an unions (0+ / 0-)

        But what I don't like about union (the idea of it) is that there is no reward for high performance. Everyone gets paid the same, whether they are top notch or lazy as hell.

        If you and your coworkers don't want a pay-scale, then don't agree to a contract that has one.

        "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

        by Pesto on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 05:24:07 AM PDT

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