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  •  I think you guys just need to reform the prop (4+ / 0-)
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    Ms Citizen, Shaviv, Calfacon, Go Kid Hugo

    system.  It's a great system, there are just some flaws in it.

    •  that's no small task (1+ / 0-)
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      rossl

      but it would probably be more straightforward to carry out than splitting into multiple states!

      •  Have you seen what's happening in Oregon? (3+ / 0-)
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        G2geek, Ms Citizen, BYw

        Look at this bill that was just introduced:

        http://healthydemocracyoregon.org/...

        http://healthydemocracyoregon.org/...

        The Citizens' Initiative Review is a citizen-based review process for statewide ballot measures.  During a Citizens' Initiative Review a panel of randomly selected voters from across the state, hears arguments from the campaigns for and against a ballot measure, and is given the opportunity to call upon policy experts and affected parties to provide additional background information and testimony. Throughout this professionally facilitated multi-day review, the panel deliberates based upon what they have learned about the measure in order to:

           * determine the key facts and main arguments surrounding the measure, and
           * evaluate the ballot measure based upon their independent findings.

        The panel concludes the review by drafting a "Citizens Statement" for inclusion in the statewide Voters' Pamphlet.  The "Citizens' Statement" summarizes the findings and positions of the panel into an easily accessible and direct report to voters statewide. These findings would be highlighted next to the explantory information about the ballot measure in the statewide Voters' Pamphlet -- providing a trustworthy, balanced, and citizen-based source of information in the hands of every voter across Oregon.  By establishing and fair and transparent process for publicly evaluating ballot measures,  the Citizens Initiative Review has the potential to restore trust an accountability to our initiative process. .

        This is happening in Oregon - hopefully it will pass.  It's a model for initiative processes elsewhere.

    •  I don't understand why we need propositions (0+ / 0-)

      if we have a legislature. How is the prop system anything more than uninformed mob rule?

      the greatest threat to america is its sense of exceptionalism.

      by SeanF on Thu Mar 19, 2009 at 09:38:33 AM PDT

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