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  •  I won't post a screed (1+ / 0-)
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    but I will ask that you, at some later date, write a diary about this that is more typical of teacherken diaries.

    It is clear that you are angry, and that at least part of this anger is because people who are not teachers are driving the education debate.

    But I am not so sure what about Broad's proposals invokes your ire - other than that he is loud, rich, and not a teacher.  There is a mention of 'data driven' and it is clear that you  disapprove. But, unless I know more, I can't even tell if I agree .... The data are incomplete and messy and biased.  Well, in the social sciences and education and all fields like that, the data are always incomplete messy and biased.  That does not make them useless.  What else is there?

    Indeed, any proposal you make is also likely to be data driven .... it will just use different data, data that is also incomplete and messy and biased.

    The only people who oppose basing things on data are ideologues and fools, and you are neither.

    (sorry to be so hostile sounding, but you did invite us to be so! ... on the vast majority of things, I'm in agreement with you.  )

    NYC meetup! 3/25, 6:30 until ...with Frankenoid. Fred's, 83rd and Amst. Please contact me or frankenoid to RSVP (please)

    by plf515 on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 02:14:12 PM PDT

    •  data driven is a misnomer (0+ / 0-)

      since most of the data on which they rely is flawed and misrepresents the reality of what really occurs.

      We have had this discussion before.  At least with respect to various aspects of educational measurement.

      You are a psychometrician by training.  You find more value in standardized tests, even when used in the proper fashion as you advocate, than I do.  

      I am appalled by our tendency to want to reduce things to one or a few numbers, and in the process lose sight of the individual students before us.

      And I see what is happening as an everincreasing depredation.  So I oppose it in all it various incarnation.

      do we still have a Republic and a Constitution if our elected officials will not stand up for them on our behalf?

      by teacherken on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:25:56 PM PDT

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