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  •  P.S. More US men raped, than women? (2+ / 0-)
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    goodasgold, OMwordTHRUdaFOG

    I remember hearing that factoid somewhere, but can't remember where, and I have no idea if it has any truthiness. The argument was that counting prison rape -- and why not?! -- more men in the US are raped than women.  Sounded exaggerated to me at the time; but does anyone have any good data on this?

    •  Utter Truthiness (2+ / 0-)
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      philipmerrill, fernan47

      Even though the U.S. male prison population is extremely high, it is dwarfed by the total number of women (and girls) in the U.S. That's the kind of bogus stat used by people trying to minimize the horror of how often women are raped in this country. Please don't buy it.

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      by Oaktown Girl on Sun Mar 29, 2009 at 10:43:07 AM PDT

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      •  It's not the raw number of the prison population (1+ / 0-)
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        philipmerrill

        that's relevant, but how many move through it. Nearly one in ten American men will spend at least one night in jail.

        I seriously doubt though, that more men are raped than women, but there may very well be more rapes of men than of women.

        It's a matter of raw number of incidents, as opposed to the raw number of victims.

        While it's true that some women are raped many times (ie - the victims of Sex trafficing, girls who are sexually abused for long periods), a guy spending one night in many of our country jails is at high risk of being raped ten, twenty, or more times.

        For some men in prison, rape is something they are subjected to several times in each day.

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        by JesseCW on Sun Mar 29, 2009 at 02:40:50 PM PDT

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      •  researching... (0+ / 0-)

        Sounds "truthy" (false) to me, too. But I admit I'm a newbie to this important topic. I remember reports that 1 in 4 American women have suffered attempted rape or rape. But that 1982 study is disputed, e.g. this article (albeit NRO!) suggests it's more like 5-8% of women over the course of their lifetime (vs. annual rates).

        I see a number of references to this truthy factoid about prisons, which doesn't mean anything (lots of truthiness out there). I'm just reading up on this, don't really know where to turn for reliable statistics. E.g.:

        Best estimates put the annual number of prison rapes at about 140,000, which is 50,000 more than the 90,000 or so rapes of women reported to police.

        "The number of admissions to local jails over the course of a year is approximately 17 times higher than the nation’s jail population on any given day." And yet surveys on a given survey day found that 4.5%, that is 60,500 prisoners in federal and state prisons (and another 25,000 detainees in county jails, so 85,000 total) reported sexual abuse in the past 6-12 months.  Data from Allen J. Beck & Paige M. Harrison, Bureau of Justice Statistics, "Sexual Victimization in Local Jails Reported by Inmates, 2007" (2008)

        No stats, but here's a horrifying story of a 1968 anti-war activist who was jailed, gang-raped, and later became a head of Stop Prison Rape, renamed Just Detention Internat'l.

        Ugh, this is a depressing topic whatever the statistics. :-(  

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