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  •  What TJ said below (3+ / 0-)

     We're  badly overpopulated due to fossil fuel use in agriculture. How we conduct ourselves on the way down is the difference between one billion and two billion at the end of the run. This is what motivates me on a daily basis ... trying to get our fertilizer production free of CO2.

    "Not dead ... yet. Still have ... things to do." -Liet Kynes

    by Stranded Wind on Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 10:33:09 AM PDT

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    •  Making ammonia with renewables, not fossil fuels (4+ / 0-)

      strikes me as very doable with the appropriate political will and if we do that, then why wouldn't there would be enough fertilizers?

      SW, your own ammonia from "stranded wind" ideas persuade me that a massive human die-off is avoidable if -- if and only if -- we get smart about using renewable energy sources.

      "Seeing our planet as a whole, enables one to see our planet as a whole" - Tad Daley

      by Bill White on Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 11:36:55 AM PDT

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      •  die off is unavoidable (2+ / 0-)
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         We can't avoid die-off even if we hit our fertilization/fuel needs head on. There are too many places that are on the edge already and I don't think we can get it done fast enough. Belt tightening would carry us through ... but the Middle East is entirely dependent on exchanging declining oil reserves for an ever increasing need for grain.

        "Not dead ... yet. Still have ... things to do." -Liet Kynes

        by Stranded Wind on Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 12:13:58 PM PDT

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        •  Biochar production has already commenced (2+ / 0-)
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          http://www.emediawire.com/...

          Biochar is a fine-grained charcoal high in organic carbon and largely resistant to decomposition. According to the International Biochar Initiative, when used as a soil amendment, biochar reduces the acidity of the soil, increases water retention, and captures carbon dioxide (CO2), making the soil fertile for potentially hundreds to thousands of years.

          In addition, EternaGreen™ BioChar can help sequester CO2 and nitrous oxide, absorbing it into the soil and acting as what is called a "carbon sink." This natural process pulls harmful greenhouse gas emissions out of the air and into the ground, safely fertilizing the soil and reducing the need for traditional fertilizer. As a result, biochar has been proven to help increase crop yields by as much as 80-400 percent.

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          By May of 2009, the EternaGreen BioRefinery will be in full production, and by June it will be producing 7,000 pounds of biochar per hour. By December, we'll be producing 20,000 pounds per hour. Through the expanded production of biochar, we are bringing new life to the farming industry and the planet.

          Localized famines (in places like Haiti, Gaza Strip, Bangladesh) will not dent global population figures.

          China, India, European Union and the United States account for ~50% of the world's population and I just don't see significant famine in those places (in the near future) because of fossil fuel fertilizers.

          "Seeing our planet as a whole, enables one to see our planet as a whole" - Tad Daley

          by Bill White on Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 12:29:28 PM PDT

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    •  Actually, we are badly overpopulated... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...period.

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