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  •  In NYS we rule on ballots before they are opened (4+ / 0-)

    in 99% of the cases.

    To steal an election in NYS, even a ridiculously close one, would require hundreds of people - including dozens from the other party - to be implicit and to keep their mouths shut.

    Impossible? Basically.

    It is one of the few things that the NY state government actually does right, that other states (*Cough!*OHIOFLORIDAMINNISOTA*Cough!*) should copy from us.

    I do not fear that the candidate with the most votes cast by people who had the right to cast them will lose. It will not happen, not in New York.

    •  What can you tell us about the implementation (1+ / 0-)
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      Arjun Jaikumar

      of the provisional ballot law?  How likely are provisionals (which should favor Dems) to count?  I worked in New York elections before and I don't recall it being good.

      Victory rests on your finger! Phonebank NY-20!

      by Seneca Doane on Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 08:45:20 PM PDT

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      •  Its pretty simple (2+ / 0-)
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        Arjun Jaikumar, Seneca Doane

        Basically, you need to pass both rounds to qualify

        If a voter filled out the envelope correctly, or at the very least signed the affidavit and put enough identifying info so as to exclude any other registered voter, they pass round 1

        If a voter is legally registered to vote anywhere in the county they voted by provisional ballot in, OR their registration was canceled due to inactivity, they then pass round 2 and the vote counts.

        There are other situations where a provisional might count as well. If an absentee ballot went out but wasn't returned, the voter will not be allowed to vote on the machine, but their paper ballot will count, assuming the absentee never shows up. If we have a voter listed as deceased, they will not be allowed to vote on the machine, but they vote by affidavit ballot, we have some research to do. At least 2-3 "dead" people vote every election due to clerical errors at hospitals and the county clerks office, and the BOE is often the first way these people find out that the government thinks their dead.

        Most rejected ballots, probably 85%, are because the voter was not registered to vote, or registered too late. Most of the rest are because the voter didn't sign the envelope, or because they moved out of county and back in without reregistering, or because they were convicted of a felony and didn't realize that you have to reregister after parole expires.

        I'm sure exact statistics exist, but I'd ballpark the % accepted at 65% in rich areas, 55% in miffle class areas, and 30% in poor areas (both urban and rural).

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