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  •  At 3:30 AM??? (3+ / 0-)

    The Old Redneck likely will be attacked, criticized, and flamed for the following comments, but, here goes.

    I own lots of firearms; I hunt and do a bit of target shooting. I have never investigated a funny noise around my home with a loaded pistol in my hand.

    If confronted with noises in my driveway at 3:30 AM, I would:  (1) tell Sweet Thing to call 911; (2) turn on all the outside lights; (3) use my key chain remote to activate the alarm on the car; (4) look outside through several windows, and, (5) not go outside.

    HOWEVER -- perhaps someone could tell me what three young men were doing wandering up and down the streets at 3:30 IN THE MORNING.  While the young man's death is unbearably tragic, the fact is that not much good happens when a group of young men are out between the hours of 1:00 AM and dawn.  They may have been innocent of any wrongdoing, but, I doubt that they were collecting for the Salvation Army.

    One of the lessons parents need to take from this is to impose and enforce a curfew and don't let your teenaged children be out of the house at 3:30 AM.

    •  Blame the victim (2+ / 0-)
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      danger durden, esquimaux

      Good handle you picked.
      probably the kids were liberals out looking to get killed by some honest american homeowner in order to make the NRA look bad.  The kid's name is kinda foreign sounding too.

    •  Contradicted your own argument (1+ / 0-)
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      esquimaux

      Read the first part of your comment:

      If confronted with noises in my driveway at 3:30 AM, I would:  (1) tell Sweet Thing to call 911; (2) turn on all the outside lights; (3) use my key chain remote to activate the alarm on the car; (4) look outside through several windows, and, (5) not go outside.

      Now read the second:

      HOWEVER -- perhaps someone could tell me what three young men were doing wandering up and down the streets at 3:30 IN THE MORNING.  While the young man's death is unbearably tragic, the fact is that not much good happens when a group of young men are out between the hours of 1:00 AM and dawn.  They may have been innocent of any wrongdoing, but, I doubt that they were collecting for the Salvation Army.

      IMO the first thing was common sense, so the second part of your comment made no sense as you already indicated it was not prudent to go outside on your own. Moreover, vandalism and petty burglary in no way justify shooting anyone because your life is not threatened and the victims here hadn't even entered the premises.

      Now had this person called the cops, and waited for them to show and then these kids entered his house, it would have been less clear cut a case. Still, blaming the victim here accomplishes nothing as the same thing could have happened at any point once the sun went down.

      If the kids were shot at 9 p.m. would you still say the same thing?

      •  Come, let's be reasonable here (0+ / 0-)

        The shooter grossly over-reacted. We all agree on that. He deserves prison, and a lot of it.

        The kids had no business being where and when they were. If they had been at home asleep in their beds, where they belonged, none of this would have happened.

        It is not blaming the vitim to point out the victim was an utter dumbass who put himself in a dangerous situation unnecessarily. He did not deserve to be shot for it, true. But the granparent is right - nothing good comes of teenagers out at that time of night. Be honest in your debate.

        •  Can any of us say we've NEVER been out at 3 am? (2+ / 0-)
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          esquimaux, ratmach

          I am a "good girl." I've never been in trouble. Never smoked, never drank before I was 21, etc.

          And, yes. I have been out with friends at 3 am. What were we doing? Hanging out. Feeling "powerful" because we were out at 3 am.

          The worst thing we were doing is breaking curfew.

          Was it right to be out? No. But, that's why you call the police for kids breaking curfew.

          PLEASE do not blame the victim.

          I feel it IS blaming the victim to say if they were in their beds, nothing would have happened.

          If a man did not come out with a loaded gun, rather than calling the police, when he, himself, was in NO DANGER, nothing would have happened.

          •  The victim is not blameless (1+ / 0-)
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            ratmach

            Sorry. I will not bow to groupthink.

            The victim did not deserve what happened to him. The shooter should go to prison. Forever, if you ask me.

            But the kid should not have been out. He broke the rules, and he broke the law. One of the reasons curfew laws exist is BECAUSE YOU MIGHT GET SHOT SNEAKING AROUND SOMEONE'S HOUSE AT 3 IN THE MORNING. He did something stupid. Sometimes, when people do stupid things, really bad things happen. This is life. To say the victim is blameless means that he had no responsibility for putting himself in the situation. Did someone force him out of the house at gunpoint?

            The victim's responsibility in the matter is trivial compared to the shooter's. But that does not mean it was non-existent.

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